http://www.overclock.net/ Use this forum for discussion involving both Intel and AMD, or for discussions about VIA or other smaller CPU makers en Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:12:27 GMT vBulletin 1 http://static.overclock.net/images/oc/misc/rss.jpg http://www.overclock.net/ http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613520-upgrade-options.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:57:01 GMT I start with the basics, I have about £300 maybe a bit more if needed on upgrading my current system. I'm pretty sure i need a new motherboard because I keep recieving erros when more than one hard drive is connected, which I could pin point any errors with the drives and been through 4 now.

I also think my processor is holding me back so possibly looking into a new one of them. I've hit a barrier at 3.1ghz with mine no matter what I try I cannot keep it stable even at reasonable temps. Not sure whether to go to the dark side of Intel or not?

The Athlon II's look good but not sure how much performance is lost with no L3 cache if any? AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition 3.1GHz 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 looks nice or should i actually go for a quad core.

Secondly I do want another hard drive something fast not Maxtor ( personal dislike to them had bad experiences with them).

But I'm open to suggestions or to just stick to what I have, it will be mainly used for gaming, music/media, surfing the net. ]]> General Processor Discussions Rebellion88 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613520-upgrade-options.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613450-torn-between-ph2x3-athx4-c2q.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:26:05 GMT I'm totally, unsure of what's the best bang for the buck here. The setups I have in mind for each makes the overall price of CPU+MOBO+RAM for them within $10 of each other. But I want the best option if they're that close.
Which leaves me with two questions:
Which is best at stock?
And which is best at these settings, 3.2GHz for the C2Q6700 and the Athlonx4620, and 4.0GHz for the Phenom720?
I'm asking because one article mentioned but didn't show that the Athlonx4 didn't get much better with OCing(as in it lost ground to the PH2's when at matching OCs). And also, because of the whole no L3Cache and Low L2Cache. ]]> General Processor Discussions Rookie1337 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613450-torn-between-ph2x3-athx4-c2q.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613442-asus-i7cpu-2-67-ghz-8cpus.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:19 GMT System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 11/21/2009, 21:06:35 Machine name: KILLERB Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090805-0102) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System... System Information
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Time of this report: 11/21/2009, 21:06:35
Machine name: KILLERB
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090805-0102)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/11/09 16:37:40 Ver: 08.00.15
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 9206MB RAM
Page File: 4365MB used, 14220MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode

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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found. ]]> General Processor Discussions lessorevil http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613442-asus-i7cpu-2-67-ghz-8cpus.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613216-intel-amd-700-no-graphics-card.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:48:08 GMT hi i am looking to make me a gaming machine for $700 the main question is intel or amd this is the machine i am looking at: Gigabyte GZ-M3 Mini Tower Case, $37.60 Cooler Master Scout SGC2000 Portable Mid-Tower PC Case, $141.80 would liike the scout but it is another $100 AMD... hi i am looking to make me a gaming machine for $700
the main question is
intel or amd
this is the machine i am looking at:

Gigabyte GZ-M3 Mini Tower Case, $37.60
Cooler Master Scout SGC2000 Portable Mid-Tower PC Case, $141.80
would liike the scout but it is another $100

AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition, 2.80GHz,$158.90
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 - 3.5" - 250GB HDD, $55.00
ECS A790GXM-AD3 Motherboard, $141.30
Vantec ION2 460W Ultra Quiet ATX Power Supply (VAN-460C),$64.90
Corsair 4GB (2x 2Gb) Memory Kit, 1333MHz (PC3 10600) DDR3 RAM, 240-pin DIMM, Cas 9-9-9-24, $140.00

thanks ]]> General Processor Discussions Bradey http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613216-intel-amd-700-no-graphics-card.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613179-noob-help.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:41:22 GMT I am a complete computer Noob that knows nothing about computers. I am doing a research project on computer system and would like someone to help me out. The project goal was to provide hardware and software components for a small and medium enterpirse. This enterprise specialized in sellling... I am a complete computer Noob that knows nothing about computers. I am doing a research project on computer system and would like someone to help me out.
The project goal was to provide hardware and software components for a small and medium enterpirse. This enterprise specialized in sellling medical devices. So where and how can I find these hardware components?

More details about the enterprise:

There are 2 partners, 1 secretary , 1 sales manager , 2 sales executives and 1 accountant

the sales team traves frequently to meet the suppliers and cleints and they need internet access, email, file sharing, and they welcome technologies that would makie their communication more effective

The rest of the staff will normally work in the office and each of them requires a computer wirh emal, word processing, spread sheet and other software applications that increase productivities.

thanks you in advance for anyone who is reading this and could offer help. ]]> General Processor Discussions cyrus001 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/613179-noob-help.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612701-new-system.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:47:11 GMT I'm saving up for a new build and was wondering on any advice that could be given?

It's my sig rig and the total cost is going to be £1373.38 or $2,267.67 :)

What do you guys think? Good for a gaming beast that will do a while :)
[Edit] - Just to let you guys know i live in Jolly Ol' England! :D
Thanks :D ]]> General Processor Discussions Jeffaruni http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612701-new-system.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612560-pii-q6600.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:56:31 GMT hey guys i have a ? should i get a phenom 2 720 and oc it to around 3.8 or just keep my q6600 and get ddr3. i plan on going ddr3 on the 720 as well. btw its a b3 stepping at 3.5 ghz 1.48 vcore in windows hey guys i have a ? should i get a phenom 2 720 and oc it to around 3.8 or just keep my q6600 and get ddr3. i plan on going ddr3 on the 720 as well. btw its a b3 stepping at 3.5 ghz 1.48 vcore in windows ]]> General Processor Discussions sean11978 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612560-pii-q6600.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612529-how-stable-your-setup-really-stable.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:50:47 GMT So from what i have seen here and other overclock related forums i frequent the general consensus is that as long as you are Prime 95 stable you are stable....which just isn't true

With tests like OCCT/Linpack and Core Damage easily pointing out just how "stable" that overclock really is i want to know just how many of you here use multiple tests?

What are the tests you use and in what order? for how long do you feel is long enough for your overclocks to be deemed stable? and please mention any other info you feel relevant to the matter

Edit: I am not to fond of the outcome with the poll options but i can't fix it now :o ]]> General Processor Discussions Rewindlabs http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612529-how-stable-your-setup-really-stable.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612226-2200-amd-intel-rate-builds.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:23:32 GMT Spinpoint f3 1 tb 84.99 Liteon Ihos Blue Ray Drive 61.99 Samsung DVD Burner 28.99 Noctua-D14 1 110 Samsung SyncMaster 2493HM 1 393.83 AMD 965/ASUS M4A79XTD 260.98 OCZGold OCZ3G10664GK 165.98 ABS m1 keyboard ... Spinpoint f3 1 tb 84.99
Liteon Ihos Blue Ray Drive 61.99
Samsung DVD Burner 28.99
Noctua-D14 1 110
Samsung SyncMaster 2493HM 1 393.83
AMD 965/ASUS M4A79XTD 260.98
OCZGold OCZ3G10664GK 165.98
ABS m1 keyboard 44.99
Razer DeathAdder 44.99
Intel 80GB SSD 289.99
Antec 1200/850 W CPX PS 244.98
Video Card 5870 399.99
Grand Total 2131.7

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5/Dominator 463.98
Antec 1200/850 W CPX PS 244.98
Samsung SyncMaster 2493HM 1 393.83
ABS m1 keyboard 1 44.99
Razer DeathAdder 1 44.99
OCZ Freeze 1 5.99
Liteon Ihos Blue Ray Drive 61.99
Samsung DVD Burner 28.99
Noctua-D14 1 90
I7 920 269.99
Video Card 5870 399.99
Spinpoint f3 1 tb 84.99
Total 2134.71

Which would perform better for light gaming, open office, and adobe master collection 4? Thanks for your time!

Edit: I'll probably fold when the 5870 is supported, too. ]]> General Processor Discussions derekc4 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612226-2200-amd-intel-rate-builds.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612083-dont-know-what-get-upgrade.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:14:28 GMT Hey guys, it's been a while since I've asked for build help. I want to upgrade my rig one last time before I move to Dubai (May 2010), but I don't know who I wanna go with. AMD or Intel?

So far, I'm only looking to upgrade my CPU, mobo, and RAM.

It needs to be a quadcore, and I'm looking @ 8GB of RAM.

I put together a little something a while back which consisted of an i5, forget what mobo, and 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3 RAM. It was in the ballpark of $450-$500. All of these prices were taken from Newegg.

So, what can I get (AMD/Intel, 8GB RAM, ATX mobo) for $450-$500? ]]> General Processor Discussions legoman786 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/612083-dont-know-what-get-upgrade.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611961-may-i-get-suggestion-if-rig.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:20:22 GMT Hello everyone!

I'm on the market looking to buy a new PC. A friend of mine recently bought one and seeing what his machine can do, I'm feeling out of the loop.

I currently have a AMD 64x2
4200 Processor
2.21 ggz, 2GB ram
Nvidea 6800 card which is starting to crumble apart and overheat like crazy.

So here's my situation

I can't decide If i should buy a PC from Dell, or Alienware. I know that Alienware has had ALOT of reviews of being overpriced (keep in mind I can't tell what's good and what isn't) I'm strictly a gamer with almost no knowledge on what I should and shouldn't buy.

I put a package together and let me know what you guys think

Alienware Aurora Alienware Aurora Desktop
2nd Processor Intel® Core™ i7 920 (2.66GHz, 8MB Cache)
Memory 6GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1067MHz - (3 x 2048MB
Video Cards Single 1.8GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260
Hard Drive 500GB - SATA-II, 3Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 16MB Cache HDD
Operating Systems Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
Optical Drive Single Drive: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ Xtreme Audio
Hardware Support Services 1 Year Limited Hardware Warranty with In

Killer NIC Killer Xeno™ Pro

Cooling Option Alienware® High-Performance Liquid Cooling

Also comes with a set of Surround sound speakers X540 5.1

For 2200 bucks (Canadian)

I would like to hear from some of you people and your ideas on what I should, or shouldn't do.

(Please keep in mind, I know that buying parts individually and assembling - Or having someone else do it it my case - Is cheaper. I'm ok with spending a few hundred more dollars to have the thing delivered to my doorstep in a few days. The bother of having to shop around and ask for products with a whole bunch of letters and numbers in their name that will come out as gibberish to me)

Thanks everyone!! ]]> General Processor Discussions Faelinn http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611961-may-i-get-suggestion-if-rig.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611456-craigslist.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:56:35 GMT Ok so I found an i7 920 from this guy on craigslist whos selling it for about the same price micro center is selling it for. It's probably used but he says it's new and in box, and he doesn't need it anymore since he has a new laptop. I offered him 150 for it and he said that was good, just wondering how you guys feel about craigslist and if there is any way I can have assurance on buying from the site in a safe way if the product is faulty. thanks ]]> General Processor Discussions LoVeiTCoOl http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611456-craigslist.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611380-rate-my-friends-build.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:44:16 GMT He had a strict budget, so we wanted to maximize his desktop while keeping the budget around $400. Here's where we are, having just ordered the parts:



He also has this case and this Hard Drive.

The total money he spent on this was $280 or so. He'll get a video card on Black Friday or that event on December 1st if nothing special occurs on Black Friday.

I'd say, for less than $400, he's got a solid build. ]]> General Processor Discussions godsgift2dagame http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611380-rate-my-friends-build.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611195-help-me-build-pc.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:34:55 GMT I need a motherboard, processor, RAM, dvd drive, and power supply for $300! Would love to see some combos from newegg to help save some cash.

Prefer AM3 and DDR3 memory, a good power supply, and that's about it. Would hope for Phenom II. ]]> General Processor Discussions godsgift2dagame http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611195-help-me-build-pc.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611177-contemplating-budget-build.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:19:25 GMT I need a budget build with sometype of quad core processor... whether it be a AMD/Intel really means nothing to me. I need at least 1TB of memory. The GPU is probably the least valued part of my build simply because the only computer game i play is Pokerstars. All i do is Encode video. My Budget... I need a budget build with sometype of quad core processor... whether it be a AMD/Intel really means nothing to me. I need at least 1TB of memory. The GPU is probably the least valued part of my build simply because the only computer game i play is Pokerstars. All i do is Encode video.

My Budget is $600-$700 but i want to keep it as close to $600 as possible

basically just building the Tower the rest i will do later....

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042

PS. The Motherboard i would like it to be a great OC board and able to hook up multiple HDDs too...

thanks! ]]> General Processor Discussions iFresh http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611177-contemplating-budget-build.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611033-cheap-build-parents-need-suggestions.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:03:55 GMT Hey everyone,
I'm looking to build an inexpensive computer to replace my parents old clunker. Currently they are using an old pentium 4 with 512 MB of ram. The operating system alone is barely functional at this point and I thought it might be a nice christmas gift. I would like it to be capable of very basic gaming, though my dad only plays Tiberian Sun, which released in 1999, and Bejeweled on facebook. Any suggestions would be awesome.
Not looking to spend more than a few hundred dollars. ]]> General Processor Discussions deathdog http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611033-cheap-build-parents-need-suggestions.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611011-best-overdrive-setting-hd4670.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:42:47 GMT So could someone plz tell me the best overdrive settings for my Sapphire Radeon HD4670 512mb GDDR3. At the moment core clock is 800mhz and Memory clock is 990mhz :) So could someone plz tell me the best overdrive settings for my Sapphire Radeon HD4670 512mb GDDR3. At the moment core clock is 800mhz and Memory clock is 990mhz :) ]]> General Processor Discussions 1june http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/611011-best-overdrive-setting-hd4670.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610934-why-build-computer.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:17:46 GMT I'm writing a report for school. What are some advantages of building your own computer instead of purchasing name brand? I have several ideas of course, but I was wondering what some of you thought as well. Thanks for reading. ]]> General Processor Discussions derekc4 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610934-why-build-computer.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610819-help-downloaded-modded-bios-but-now.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:38:32 GMT I tried using a modified bios without really knowing much about it and now my motherboard temp readings are reading 85c which from what I understand and hope is just a misreading.

I tried downloading the bios exe's from the manufacturer but it wont recognize them now saying "onboard bios not award bios"

Is there anything I can do to fix this? ]]> General Processor Discussions channelx99 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610819-help-downloaded-modded-bios-but-now.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610814-any-ideas-laging-games.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:28:56 GMT hey all again. i was just talking to my mate about his computer and he was saying it had been laging in games recently, but only for about a minute then its all fine again for a bit. He said it only happend after the other day when his computer locked up so pushed the restart button and its done... hey all again.

i was just talking to my mate about his computer and he was saying it had been laging in games recently, but only for about a minute then its all fine again for a bit. He said it only happend after the other day when his computer locked up so pushed the restart button and its done it since. i thought of some things but still hasnt worked so thought id see if anyone has an idea?
his computer has the following:
- Intel Q9400
- nvidia 9800GT
- some cheapish RAM
- generic PSU
- and a Gigabyte MB though i cant remember the model. :(
sorry might not be the best info ill find out tomrrow if need be exactly what he has.

thanks.:rolleyes: ]]> General Processor Discussions iSubaru http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610814-any-ideas-laging-games.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610676-my-first-build-please-critique-but.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:37:52 GMT ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner – OEM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL – Retail Western... ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner –
OEM

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL – Retail


Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal
Hard Drive -Bare Drive


CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply – Retail

AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core
Processor - Retail

HIS H467PS1GH Radeon HD 4670 iSilence4 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail ]]> General Processor Discussions Chicago30 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610676-my-first-build-please-critique-but.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610630-good-setup.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:47:07 GMT Piecing together a system and wanted to see what you think. If I need something different or better let me know. Thanks 2 eVGA GeForce GTX 295 CO-OP Edition Video Cards eVGA X58 Sli - motherboard - extended ATX - iX58 Thermaltake Armor+ VH600LBWS - full tower - extended ATX Intel Core i7... Piecing together a system and wanted to see what you think. If I need something different or better let me know.

Thanks

2 eVGA GeForce GTX 295 CO-OP Edition Video Cards
eVGA X58 Sli - motherboard - extended ATX - iX58
Thermaltake Armor+ VH600LBWS - full tower - extended ATX
Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 975 / 3.33 GHz processor
Crucial Ballistix - memory - 12 GB ( 6 x 2 GB ) - DIMM 240-pin - DDR3
Antec TruePower Quattro 1000 - power supply - 1 kW
2 WD Caviar Green WD15EADS - hard drive - 1.5 TB - SATA-300s
LG CH08LS10 Super Multi Blue - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM / BD-ROM drive -Se
Pioneer BDR-205 - BD-RE drive - Serial ATA
Win7U ]]> General Processor Discussions soagames http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610630-good-setup.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610527-general-mobo-tdp-support-question.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:12:16 GMT Im considering getting a 955be for my sig rig, and i can get the 125w version much cheaper (gift card @ amazon), compared to regular price on the 95w version. BUT, since i see my mobo only supports cpus up to 125w, do I have to worry about issues when volting and OCing the cpu? I'm hoping to push as close to the 4ghz line as I can on my mugen2.

To be concise, will a 125w rated mobo have issues running an OC'd 125w cpu? ]]> General Processor Discussions specialk http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610527-general-mobo-tdp-support-question.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610480-best-possible-build-900-a.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:32:36 GMT ^What the title says. I don't need a mouse, monitor, or speakers/headphones. Everything else I do need, including windows. Preferably DDR3 memory. Also, I'd rather go with better cooling than higher clock speed if possible, since this is Overclock.net right? XD ]]> General Processor Discussions t3haxle http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610480-best-possible-build-900-a.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610472-how-do-i-disable-vdroop-even.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:19:06 GMT Is there some sort of setting I can choose to disable vdroop? I know I posted a question about this on the AMD boards a few minutes back, but I just realized (finally) that all my OC issues were due to the fact that when I wake my computer from sleep my CPU voltage drops below stock voltages. I'm happy in a sense to know that I've finally found this issue, but how in the hell do I tell my CPU to stop that!? Is there a BIOS setting? If so, what is it called? ]]> General Processor Discussions skitzogreg http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610472-how-do-i-disable-vdroop-even.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610465-simple-temp-question.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:07:19 GMT Really silly I know but, when using h/w monitor for the cpu it says core 1 and core 0 both at 33c. should i be reading the temps as 33c or as one for example 66c? Really silly I know but, when using h/w monitor for the cpu it says core 1 and core 0 both at 33c. should i be reading the temps as 33c or as one for example 66c? ]]> General Processor Discussions Rebellion88 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610465-simple-temp-question.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610032-overclocking-good.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:19:38 GMT We all know it, Stock is one of the 7 deadly sins of computing.
Prove me right.
I can't stand stock... It is never enough. ]]> General Processor Discussions Idiot http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/610032-overclocking-good.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/609869-mild-build-need-some-input.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:53:41 GMT so im building my friends father a new computer and he needs it for his car dealership. i guess what he told me is that he needs a computer that is more up to date than his 8 year old computer that sits in his office lol. the limit is ~500. i want to make sure he can fiddle around with photoshop... so im building my friends father a new computer and he needs it for his car dealership. i guess what he told me is that he needs a computer that is more up to date than his 8 year old computer that sits in his office lol. the limit is ~500. i want to make sure he can fiddle around with photoshop too since he likes to do that stuff for his band in his spare time.

my question is should i go intel or amd?

any thoughts are very appreciated
thanks in advance. ]]> General Processor Discussions Toan http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/609869-mild-build-need-some-input.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/609852-new-pc-build-need-some-reassurance.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:04:23 GMT I am piecing together a new build and just want some peace of mind about the parts I am choosing. I've done quite a bit of research as this will only be my third build, but it has been about 4 years since my last. Here is what I have so far.

CPU: Phenom II X4 955 ($175) or 965 ($195)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX ($80)
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ($96)
GPU: XFX HD-487A-ZWFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 ($155)
PSU: OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V ($65)
CPU cooling: Scythe SCKTN-3000 92mm Sleeve "KATANA3" ($29)
Case: COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP ($40)
Case cooling: 3x 120mm Scythe DFS122512L-PWM ($30)
Hard Drive: WD 750GB Caviar Black ($70)
Total Build Cost: $740

I plan to overclock either processor to at least 3.8GHz. Suggestions are welcome. ]]> General Processor Discussions NicksTricks007 http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/609852-new-pc-build-need-some-reassurance.html http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/609175-general-lapping-question.html Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:00:32 GMT Why don't AMD and Intel lap their CPUs? It just seems to me like they should do it to every CPU.

What are the downsides to lapping that would make them NOT do this?

Lapping gives better contact to a hsf, so you'd get better temps. There doesn't seem to be a downside to me (never lapped before, so I could possibly be wrong. There might be a MILLION down sides :rolleyes:).

Is it just because they like to keep the brand on top of the CPU?!?

tl;dr
Why don't they lap their CPUs? ]]> General Processor Discussions Dilyn http://www.overclock.net/general-processor-discussions/609175-general-lapping-question.html