Originally Posted by battleaxe
Or you can wait a few months and the 480 will once again be beating out the 1060. Happens every time.
I've waited 2 and half months for AMD to pull their supply chain together, wrote to retailers and distributors few times a week. The pricing is not gonna drop on 480s, not here nor is availability gonna get better than it is right now.
Beating this or that in 2 months or 2 years... speculations. With 770 vs 280x it was clear that 280x is the better card, more bandwidth, more VRAM, better even in reviews at launch. 290/390 a crazy power hog with only 390 being a decent card today due to the oversized VRAM it was rereleased with.
By the time current AMD cards catch up to the competition due to driver and newer APIs being more used there will a batch of new cards not just from AMD being released as well.
And personally I am fine with paying less for more performance now even if 2 years later the other card would have offered more performance at the cost of what +25% power consumption?
AMD has good architecture feature wise and good chips as long as they do not overvolt them and improve the efficiency. This goes for CPU and GPU, both Intel and NV pushed hard for efficiency and adopted even some of the mobile efficiency features and are stomping AMD since. Sure before that it was the other way when AMD had better efficiency than both. Funny isn't it, better efficiency product wins, as for the same power/heat you get more performance.
The poor efficiency and lack of releasing new chips not just rehashes is killing AMD. Sure they do try to fill in the empty spots on the market, that's nice, and push new open features but hardware performance wise... improve the damn performance/power ratio and in turn their products will be so much more competitive.
Let me know in 2 months when a $259 480 8GB will be beating a 1060. I really wanna see that, how they magically whip out +10%...
1060 @ 2012MHz/9102MHz does 14760 score in Firestrike. Stock reference closk is 13307. The only time AMD is beating the NV counterparts is with an AMD optimized application or rather poorly optimized AMD favoring engine like the trash in Hitman and DeusEx. Doom Vulkan is great but that's about the only game that seems to use most GPUs to their max and running at decent performance unlike the Hitman/DX trash engine. How many more games or apps like Doom Vulkan will there be this year? I would say zero. By the time these newer APIs are finally used properly, NV will release a new or updated enough architecture that supports all the features well and fast and it's gonna be a time to upgrade anyway.
AMD and Vega... will see but I think it's not gonna be good, probably a Fiji remake with too high price and power needs again.
Navi maybe finally a properly designed architecture and the APIs being ready and used for it.
Nvidia, dunno, don't care, I buy what ever offers me the best performance/price, where performance for me is speed+power consumption+noise, regardless of brand.
AMD can pull it off, they have the people and money but no they always have to mess something up.