Originally Posted by ThoraxImpaler
This is far more responses than I expected; thanks for letting me pick your brains. Clustered response:
Thank you; appreciate your time. My only concern for the FX chips was the astounding lack of mATX motherboard options. ASRock has the only decent motherboard for AM3+ (in terms of chipset and in my opinion at least); and based on how their customer service has handled the constant complaints about that particular board, I'd say the company well knows it.
Thanks for the response. Utilization was my biggest concern for the FM2+ chips. If the 8300 can hit 4GHz on a decent 4+1 power phase, I may end up doing that. Could be a fun project.
Well, I'd say I've got enough to make my decision. I live in central California so ambient heat is a HUGE problem during the summer; but I've got a decent AC unit that keeps my apartment nice and cool without breaking the my wallet in half. Plus I undervolt/underclock everything as much as I can to prevent unnecessary heat unless I'm gaming or the like. As for budget; well, I'm only purchasing a CPU, ram, and a motherboard. I have plenty of components lying around or just sitting in their boxes; cases, PSUs, hard drives, GPUs etc..... Safe to say, I have a problem. I'm not really feeling anything above $300; as I may just sell this rig or gift it to a friend around the time Zen finally graces us with its presence. I'll post back what I end up going with and how it's working for me; for anyone who is interested. Won't be buying until next week so plenty of time to chew on this information. Thank you again everybody.
Ah, mATX and FX don't go well together. The Asrcok 970M Pro, according to reports in the forum, can run at 4Ghz, but quality wise, is the worst motherboard choice you can make. It will run hot, it's a trait of all Asrock 970 motherboards. I suppose you could run it, if you add a small fan to blow over the VRM heatsink...
Quality wise, this is the best maTX:
But it has older chipset, so you lose SATA3 and get SATA2 instead.
The motherboard suggested by CravinR, is the most approriate really. But if you want something a bit cheaper, this is the best 4+1 motherboard:
Avoid MSI and Asrock cheap motherboards. If you want 4+1 absolutely, then you need either Gigabyte or ASUS with VRM heatsink. 4Ghz on 4+1 can be done, because you will be undervolted in practice (you need about 1.28v for 4Ghz) and the CPU will be running as 110W part. But, there is no way around that the motherboard will run hotter, so if you go 4+1, you 'd better get either Gigabyte or ASUS heatsinked in the VRM section. Like i said, there are people in the forum that say that the Asrock can do it too, but quality wise the Asrock is worse, it heats more and thus, longevity wise, there are increased risks.
See here Asrock's warning:
* For cooling the CPU and its surrounding components, please install a CPU cooler with a top-down blowing design.
Trust me, Asrock doesn't put that by accident. MSI also used to have warning on her cheap 4+1 motherboards, saying "please don't run burn-in tools on it" (like, "don't run Prime95, for your own sake").
To be frank, if mATX was the only thing you wanted, as a whole platform, FM2 is better. If i were to get that Asrock 970M motherboard, i 'd definitely add a small fan to blow on the VRM, just as precaution. If you intend to put a 4+1 mATX insde a tiny case with poor airflow, then you will have problems with the FX. 4+1 undervolted can run 4Ghz, but you need a decent airflow inside the case.