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post #11 of 27 Old 02-28-2011, 07:44 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the great input. I'm not quite sure when he wants to pull the trigger on this; it may be next week or it may be a month from now. Specific component recommendations are nice (especially that PSU if it's still on sale!), but I'm not too worried about it right now. Prices are too fluid to plan this far out. I'm mainly looking to find out if I'm headed in the right direction, and it seems that I am.

I'm really in the dark about the hardware end of video editing. I know that multiple cores help, but do better video cards? Is 4GB Ram enough, or would 8GB actually be worth it? If it helps, I found out that he's been mainly using Windows Movie Maker in Windows XP (now Windows Live Movie Maker with Windows 7) and he has Sony Vegas 9. Opinions on those? Again, he isn't a professional; this is just a casual interest.

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if you can squeez a GT 430 in there , all good

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I know that multiple cores help, but do better video cards?
Depends on the applications being used, see XDs response above. Most are still only utilizing the CPU.

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Is 4GB Ram enough,
Technically yes

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or would 8GB actually be worth it?
Going to 8GB will add less than 10% to the cost of the machine, and in video editing, is apt to increase performance by far more than 10%. Yes, it is worth it.

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If it helps, I found out that he's been mainly using Windows Movie Maker in Windows XP (now Windows Live Movie Maker with Windows 7) and he has Sony Vegas 9. Opinions on those? Again, he isn't a professional; this is just a casual interest.
Those are likely CPU only apps. Try to get an X6 into the build. It's very possible to do a quality build with an X6 for around $600. If your friend can wait a bit, it may be worth seeing what bulldozer brings here soon.

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How's this look:


CPU - AMD Phenom II x6 1055T ($180)
RAM - G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4GB DDR3 1066MHz 7-7-7-18 ($80)
Mobo - ASUS M4A77TD ($85)
GPU - Radon HD 4650 512MB ($49)
HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB ($65)
ODD - Lite-On DVD Burner ($18)
PSU - Thermaltake TR2 430W
Case - Rosewill Destroyer ($50)
OS - Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium ($100)

[Combo deal with CPU/OS saves $25]

Subtotal - $645.91
Shipping - $12.73
Coupons - $17.80 (CPU and PSU)
Mail-In Rebate - $12
Total - 628.84


Thoughts?


(also, how do I post those blocks from newegg that I see everyone do?)

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There should be a better non-generic 2x4GB kit for the price (i.e. 1600 CL9). Generic will hold you back a lot with 1055T due to locked multi/bus clock OC-ing
4+1 phase + x61055T is a bad idea. At that budget you could get a decent 8+2 VRM i.e. GA-870A-UD3

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Do you have an example of better RAM (and why it is better)? I thought G.Skill was acceptable. Would you recommend 2x4GB or 4x2GB? The former seems the obvious choice to me.

Good catch on the power phasing, but the issue with going with going with the GA-870A-UD3 is cost - we are already slightly over budget with previous build. Should the Phenom II x6 be dropped altogether?


Also, just to clarify: this machine will almost certainly not be overclocked.

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Also, just to clarify: this machine will almost certainly not be overclocked.
Then don't worry about the phase power thing...

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I keep rebuilding this thing, which I know is futile; prices can change at any time. Oh well, it keeps me occupied. It also turns out that he edits video far less than I had thought. Current plan:


CPU/Mobo (181.98) - AMD Athlon II x4 640, Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3
RAM (34.99 after rebate and coupon) - Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333 9-9-9-24
GPU (34.99 after rebate) - Sapphire Radeon HD 4650 1GB
HDD/PSU (111.98 after rebate) - Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200RPM 1TB, Corsair Enthusiast Series 650W
ODD (17.99) - Lite-On 24x DVD Burner
Case (49.99) - Rosewill Destroyer
OS (99.99) - Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM

Shipped: 590.61
After Rebates: 545.61


If he's willing to spend more to improve his video editing, I'm thinking of suggesting a second HDD (54.99, Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200RPM 1TB) for page file and additional storage as well as a bump to 8GB RAM (74.99 after rebate, Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 9-9-9-24). This would bring the after-rebate total to 641.86.

How much difference would the upgrades really make?


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Sigh. Just found some deals that would let me get a x6 1055T and 1600MHz RAM (and a downgrade to a 600W PSU, but that's ok) for only $49.51 extra. Worth it?

[sarcasm]Thanks everyone. One build, and now I'm an addict.[/sarcasm]

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Probably is worth it, 1600Mhz RAM is the way to go no matter what anyway (and would be espcially crucial with 1055T due to RAM multi options when overclocked) and considering that both are actually a big step up from x4 640/4GB DDR3 generic for only $45 more, I'd say worth it. Besides, that CX600 (assuming this is the combo deal with Corsair XMS3 & CX600) would be more than enough for 1055T + 4650, 4650 isn't very power heavy.

If no overclocking and stock cooler, no deviation, a QUALITY 4+1 phase unheatsinked would be fine. That means Gigabyte board, ASUS board, Biostar board... NOT something that easily blows up no matter what such as MSI

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