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post #1221 of 12590 Old 02-12-2012, 03:06 AM
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Did i just see a micro ATX mobo in one of this case!? Jeeeeeeeeee wiz.

Is there any point in buying this case if you never intend to crossfire or sli and will only use ATX mobo? The thing I like most is the handle and it does look built to last.

On newegg.com.cn this case sells for 1,400.00 CN = 222.423 USD

So would YOU by this case if it was 72$ more!? than newegg USA price?

Newegg china is totally gouging prices, it's as if these cases are made in the USA or something... not.

And for those that don't know, wages in China are WAY WAY lower than wages in the USA... average wage is 300$ a month in China.

Real shame.
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Looking at getting this case, I'm only going to be air cooling. So I'm wondering what have people done as in dust filter the case? I'm looking at a positive airflow, 2 120 on the front, 2 120 on the side, 1 120 on the bottom for intake. Then 2 140 on the top and 1 140 on the rear for exhaust.
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If possible, any of you guys can give me your opinion on which CPU you
think might be the better pick of the two!!! I would greatly appreciate the thought!!!
AMD Phenom IIX4 975 B.E. Deneb 3.6GHz
OR
AMD Phenom IIX4 980 B.E. Deneb 3.7GHz

wth.gif To me they are the same CPU; just one cpu is clocked higher from the factory then the other one. That's it rolleyes.gif

Well if you are buying from the egg, they are the same price, I would get the 980. If you are OC'ing it you might get a little more head room out of.
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If possible, any of you guys can give me your opinion on which CPU you
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AMD Phenom IIX4 975 B.E. Deneb 3.6GHz
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AMD Phenom IIX4 980 B.E. Deneb 3.7GHz

wth.gif To me they are the same CPU; just one cpu is clocked higher from the factory then the other one. That's it rolleyes.gif
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Just purchased a CM Storm Trooper by reading the posts in this thread, convinced me this is the case I had to have so thanks to all your help in helping me decide between this case and the Haf X I feel I made the right choice.

Couple of questions:
1. Are the fans in the front of the case and the back 1200 rpm? Looking to get something a little faster if they are
2. If I get other fans from cooler master are they able to plug into the existing LED and fan control module? Are there any fans out there that do plug in or plugs that I can buy?


I will take some pics later specs arent that great right now in the PC just moved everything over and then building a new setup here in a month just figured I would start with the case smile.gif

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Let's face it. All of us Trooper owners would have the Cosmos II if it wasnt' $350! biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by sizercam View Post

Looking at getting this case, I'm only going to be air cooling. So I'm wondering what have people done as in dust filter the case? I'm looking at a positive airflow, 2 120 on the front, 2 120 on the side, 1 120 on the bottom for intake. Then 2 140 on the top and 1 140 on the rear for exhaust.
The filtering on the case is pretty good. If you want to more you can buy after market fliters or you can add wrap the fans in womens nude hose.
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I originally posted this to Cutless009's Project "Formal Black" thread but a few people have suggested that I make a stand-alone thread out of it, so...

I'm working on a new build and plan to use wire mesh for my fan filters. I've had good results with store-bought wire mesh filters in my current Antec900 build (which uses the filters in column #12 in the table below) but I wanted to see if I could find something with a finer "weave" for trapping some of the smaller dust particles that still get into my system. I have some 100 x 100 copper mesh here at the office, which I'm sure will filter out all but the finest dust particles, but it's pretty restrictive on the air flow and creates a *lot* of wind noise. Fan noise BAD! I have become more appreciative of silent computers in recent years. biggrin.gif

McMaster Carr has a huge selection of wire meshes, so I ordered a bunch of 12" x 12" mesh samples from them, created a wind tunnel (or sorts) out of old/junk 120mm fan bodies (can you say "SilenX"?), and went about testing the meshes once I received them. Here's the results:

mesh-data.png

...and a few photos of my crude little wind tunnel and the meshes/grills (click on 'em for larger images):

meshes-thmb.pngtunnel-front-thmb.pngtunnel-rear-thmb.png

For each mesh/grill, I noted the anemometer reading with the filter installed on the intake side of the wind tunnel and then again immediately after removing the filter. There's some turbulence inside the tunnel which caused my anemometer readings to bounce around a bit, so I just averaged out the numbers over a period of a few seconds and noted the before/after numbers for each mesh.

As I mentioned above, the main thing that I wanted to check with these meshes is their noise level with the Scythe S-Flex fans but figured that, since I actually have a little anemometer, I may as well check the air flow. Almost all of the meshes/grills are noisy when installed directly adjacent to the fan body, so I used an extra fan body as a shroud - made a world of difference, especially with the Ultra Kaze.

Here's a close-up of some mesh swatches to show (more or less) their "transparency" level (Click the image to see *all* of the swatches in the full-size photo):

mesh-swatches-thmb.jpg

I didn't have any time to set that photo up, but it looks about right. The swatches are the first 10 meshes in the table above, in order from left to right, top to bottom.

Here are some shots of the various store-bought filters/grills (click on the thumbnails to see a larger version):

fan-filter-no11-sm.jpgfan-filter-no12-sm.jpgfan-filter-no13-sm.jpgfan-filter-no14-sm.jpg
fan-filter-no15-sm.jpgfan-filter-no16-sm.jpgfan-filter-no17-sm.jpg

If you're wondering about filter #13, that's the filter from the bottom of a Cosmos S case and it is yet another casualty of the Ultra Kaze fan - that thing is a menace!

I'm probably going to go with the 43 x 43 mesh for my own case (mostly because I already have 12 feet of it). It's a tight enough weave that it should keep most of the pet fur and much of the dust from entering the case, yet it still allows for good airflow and won't create any extra wind noise in my setup. If I didn't already have all of that 43 x 43 mesh, I'd probably go with the 60 x 60 (or the 70 x 70), which'll catch even more dust and still allow for decent air flow.

That copper mesh is too restrictive - even without looking at the numbers, you can just *feel* the difference at the end of the wind tunnel. With that weave as tight as it is, it won't take very long to build up an accumulation of dust and fur, which'll make the mesh even *more* restrictive - it'd probably require daily cleaning and I'm waaaay too lazy for that!

I'm sure there are flaws in my setup and test procedure but it told me what I needed to know - maybe it'll be useful to you guys. smile.gif

11-Dec-2008 Notes:
I added the MeshX FanGuard, the fabric softener sheets, and the pantyhose. I can safely say that an Ultra Kaze has no trouble tearing a Snuggle fabric softener sheet to ribbons; at least it wasn't my finger this time.

The fabric softener sheets are more restrictive than the wire meshes and, after looking at them closely, I really don't think they'll do as good of a job at keeping dust and pet fur out of the cases. The sheets look a bit like a sheet of cob/tangle web that's been soaked in fabric softener "goop". There are areas full of relatively large openings and then areas where the "goop" clogs the openings. I'd worry about that stuff getting sucked out of the sheet and blown into the case. Then there's the smell... I know some of you guys like the smell, but it makes me sneeze. I tested them about an hour ago and my nose is still running. wth.gif

The pantyhose performs quite well, tho it's very dependent upon how much you stretch it. If you don't stretch it at all, it's way too restrictive and'll probably kill your fans in no time. For my test, I stretched it to the point that the openings between the threads were approximately the same size as the openings in the 70 x 70 wire mesh (as judged by my eyes). I have no doubt that this will stop dust, but so will that 70 x 70 wire mesh and I think the mesh looks nicer (at least on the case).

13-Dec-2008 Notes:
Vapor made a comment that he thought the fabric softener sheets were supposed to be used (run through the dryer) before using them for fan filters. I was wondering about that when I tested them since they were clearly clogged up with the fabric softener, but some of the guys had mentioned liking the smell... so I figured I'd test them fresh out of the box. I've since soaked sheets from both brands in hot water, rinsed them thoroughly, and let them air dry. This, obviously, isn't quite the same as running them through the clothes dryer but it's about as close as I can get - I'm not going to throw them in with my clothes since fabric softener makes my skin itch.

The "used" sheets are now completely free of fabric softener (yay... no more stinky aroma!) and have actually shrunk a little bit. There's a much higher percentage of open areas now which are slightly smaller in size, due to the sheet fibers tightening up. I'd say they'll do a good job at trapping dust and pet fur. Both the Bounce and the Snuggle sheets look the same after washing out the detergent, so I only tested the Bounce sheet - check the chart above for the airflow numbers.


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Did i just see a micro ATX mobo in one of this case!? Jeeeeeeeeee wiz.

Is there any point in buying this case if you never intend to crossfire or sli and will only use ATX mobo? The thing I like most is the handle and it does look built to last.

On newegg.com.cn this case sells for 1,400.00 CN = 222.423 USD

So would YOU by this case if it was 72$ more!? than newegg USA price?

Newegg china is totally gouging prices, it's as if these cases are made in the USA or something... not.

And for those that don't know, wages in China are WAY WAY lower than wages in the USA... average wage is 300$ a month in China.

Real shame.
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Just purchased a CM Storm Trooper by reading the posts in this thread, convinced me this is the case I had to have so thanks to all your help in helping me decide between this case and the Haf X I feel I made the right choice.

Couple of questions:
1. Are the fans in the front of the case and the back 1200 rpm? Looking to get something a little faster if they are
2. If I get other fans from cooler master are they able to plug into the existing LED and fan control module? Are there any fans out there that do plug in or plugs that I can buy?


I will take some pics later specs arent that great right now in the PC just moved everything over and then building a new setup here in a month just figured I would start with the case smile.gif
Good start.

Front: 120 mm LED fan x2 (1200 RPM, 17dBA) For me I like the quiet and it has very good airflow since I am brushing dust from the front once a week. The custom speed control and the LED brightness will be effected if you go with after market here. But 1200 is pretty lame. if you went with a 1800 it would add more air but I would worry about the top fan and rear fan and of course adding a fan or two on the Main Panel to add more positive pressure but the case has alot of holes in it for a air escape so the more pressure the better.

Top: 200 mm fan x 1 (1000 RPM, 23 dBA) The air flow is great here unless you want the Red LEDs. They are great 200 mm fans. but you could go for lighted instead of the Black regular blah Fan. I thing it is 91 cfm

Rear: 140 mm fan x1 (1200 RPM, 19 dBA) The rear is the best to increase air flow and add lighting as well. You can go 120mm or 140mm with the Rear fan and add a quad Red LED here too.

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Let's face it. All of us Trooper owners would have the Cosmos II if it wasnt' $350! biggrin.gif
I already have a cosmos S. But I am a case WHORE. I admit it.
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