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We are going run around 15 laptops that are going on full load during late hours receiving server updates in the cabinet.
I'm doing a wild guess that the wattage output from each laptop will generate approximately 50 watts.

I'm looking for a good cooling solution that are going to keep the temperature inside the cabinet at normal levels.
I'm not sure the standard installation with four 120mm fans will be adequate. There is a possibility also to install exhaust fans outside the cabinet.

I need advice for good fans, how to direct the fans, extra optional fans to be installed inside the cabinet, how to test/measure the temps...


> Side: bottom and top fans


> Front: 15 shafts for laptops


> Top: inside fan installation


> Top: inside fan installation


> Bottom: bottom fans and space for extra fan solution

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I'm guessing noise is not really a concern here so I would just go with the best air movers on the market.

Think:
Ultra kaze 3000rpm
Delta FFB 1212 EHE 4000 rpm
Scythe Gentle Typhoon High Speed 5400rpm
San Ace 9SG1212P1G01 6000 rpm

For testing temps I would use some test laptops. Stick a few in there with HW monitor running and see how high the temps go.

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Noise shouldn't be an issue, although is there any good and simple temp controller solution, that lowers the RPM when the heat inside is on a normal level...

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Noise shouldn't be an issue, although is there any good and simple temp controller solution, that lowers the RPM when the heat inside is on a normal level...

There are fan controllers with temp sensors and automatic temp targeting (like the Lamptron CW611 and Scythe"KAZE SERVER") but thous aren't usually able to run super high power fans (and said high power fans usually use 4-pin molex connectors and not 3-pin fan heads). The Lamptron CW611 is supposedly good for up to 36 watts per channel so it should run pretty beefy fans though I'm not sure if I would really have the confidence to put anything faster the an Ultra kaze 3000rpm on one.
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Don't know if I need a PC to power the controllers?
Is there any solution for a fan automatic ON/OFF switch that engages on tambour door closure and disengages on tambour door opening?

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Don't know if I need a PC to power the controllers?
Is there any solution for a fan automatic ON/OFF switch that engages on tambour door closure and disengages on tambour door opening?

The controllers just need 12V power. They don't really care where said power comes from. As for the switch I guess you could just rig up an regular 12V momentary switch on the 12V line that feeds the controller/fans similar to how the light in a fridge work.

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Delta & San Ace have thermally controlled fans , no need for a controller
http://db.sanyodenki.co.jp/product_db_e/coolingfan/dcfan/dc_fan_detail.php?master_id=564


Also, since this a fixed location, you could go with fans which are mains powered, not 12v

12v monster http://db.sanyodenki.co.jp/product_db_e/coolingfan/dcfan/dc_fan_detail.php?master_id=2606

mains power: http://db.sanyodenki.co.jp/product_db_e/coolingfan/acfan/ac_fan_detail.php?master_id=465

In any case, you'll find that the fans which are already in the cabinet probably ARE Delta's or Sans already smile.gif
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Delta & San Ace have thermally controlled fans , no need for a controller
http://db.sanyodenki.co.jp/product_db_e/coolingfan/dcfan/dc_fan_detail.php?master_id=564


Also, since this a fixed location, you could go with fans which are mains powered, not 12v

12v monster http://db.sanyodenki.co.jp/product_db_e/coolingfan/dcfan/dc_fan_detail.php?master_id=2606

mains power: http://db.sanyodenki.co.jp/product_db_e/coolingfan/acfan/ac_fan_detail.php?master_id=465

In any case, you'll find that the fans which are already in the cabinet probably ARE Delta's or Sans already smile.gif

How can you order these for the European market?

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How can you order these for the European market?

dunno, in some electronics shop
or maybe through www.conrad.com or maplin.co.uk or amazon or similar? Dunno whats available there.. must have some electronics chains/shops
If you run into Sunon or ebmPapst, those are fine also
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How can you order these for the European market?

eBay is your best bet.

Although I do know that Element14 (Farnell) stocks them. Prepare your wallet though. They sure go overboard with prices.
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