Originally Posted by General123
I hope your not serious.. Overclocked the top 4 cards are all within a very few
fps of each other.
A 5 FPS difference in min and avg is massive at higher resolutions even if it's 31 v 36 frames, and this has been shown to be bigger after OCs.
Originally Posted by amstech
Obviously I do because I own a GTX.
It will take a lot more then one driver update and increased performance to make me consider AMD.
They have always been awful in comparison to Nvidia.
Southern Islands came out before Keplar.
The 670 was the last of big 4 to release, and for nearly 4-5 months beat a 7970 at 1080/1200p and matched it at 1440p/1600p, while beating it down in Borderlands 2 with PhysX turned up.
They are still basically all in the same bracket of performance, none can get too far away from the other.
It comes down to quality (drivers) and features (Physx) at my resolution and IMO
, its all GTX no contest.
The issue I think most people have with the NV camp is they tout their
preference, like you are now, as what is good for most people and something that should be heavily considered in the VS threads .
We've heard for the last 5 years how physx is the next big thing and FINALLY
we got BD2 and it is absolutely awesome to have it on (and my SLI 460's while they struggled loved it) but I now take issue with all the people saying this is the first of things to come.......... HA!!!!!! Batmans fog and cloths were really cool but so far we one one game where it can really enhance the experience and tons of barely noticeable games where Physx is meh
For anyone who is still asking about whether to go with 7970/7950 vs 670/680, the AMD camp is the better choice in performance and value. People will show the uninformed the super awesome Phsyx trailer from BD2 and they'll absolutely think that there are many games with the same level of implementation which is just not the case. Just because you value and know that it's the better choice for you (which most of us say that if Physx, folding and cuda are big the 670 is the proper choice) doesn't mean it's actually better for the other 90% of people that these threads are designed for.
My last few cards I made them last pretty good starting with 7600gt, 8800gt, 4870, 5870 CF to a 460SLI (yes from the 5870's to the 460's ) and now on to the 7970 which I expect to last me until the GTX 8XX/ HD 9XXX.
The 670 is the better buy on the NV camp but it's not the better card and it's no contest with the 7970/7950 getting the TKO on the NV camp for 90% of the regular folks.
Most of us that are better informed will buy what is best for us with our money and as Bruennis has had both the 680 lighting and Matrix 7970 his opinion on this is pretty much the most honest and realistic.
As you can see from TSM's post I PM'd him and asked if he could bench a few things because I thought it'd be good to get someone from the community to get real user benchies to hopefully keep some of these squabbles down to minimum. He was surprised by what he found and so were many of us who don't really have an allegiance to either side but to our wallets..