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That technology will signify a final milestone in the quest against 'targetted blurring', i.e. antialiasing. It's the point regular 24'' screens won't show aliasing at all from regular distances applying to computer monitors. Sure at 16K there will be even impossible to see aliasing if one stands extremely close to the screen but that's probably diminishing the experience of regular gaming.

I estimate it to be in around 12 to 20 years. Monitors will reach there sooner but it will need the GPU/VRAM power to support it.

It's also possible to never reach it or not reach it soon since we may hit a wall towards the 10nm node of the common silicon era.
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8k playable? I won't play games below 50FPS or so, and prefer 60FPS. I would wager about 20 years with my pickiness, especially for a single GPU computer. Even 4k is not exactly playable on a single GPU currently, it'll probably be 5-10 years before a single GPU can even maintain 60FPS at 4k on 95% of modern games.

I'd also debate if hardware will ever reach that fast until/unless new technology is discovered. They really seem to be struggling with advancement lately, planning massive improvements and then having to scale them way back each generation. The last 3 generation of processors for example are pretty dang close to each other.

Also 8k @ 24 inches? Why? Even with 4k, you will be able to play on a screen nearly the size of your wall and it'll still be insanely sharp. I don't even think you could tell the difference of 4k vs 8k until over 100" or so, and i'd think it'd be minor until about 150". Diminishing returns of even 1440p on 24" are pretty high.

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I was thinking even at 4K gamers will start not using antialiasting at all, though it may still be needed to go to 2X or 4X before 8K.

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I'd also debate if hardware will ever reach that fast until/unless new technology is discovered. They really seem to be struggling with advancement lately, planning massive improvements and then having to scale them way back each generation. The last 3 generation of processors for example are pretty dang close to each other.

I suspect that as well. Towards the 10nm node or lower, I expect to see a wall. They already appear to show signs they are afraid of it. e.g. Intel recently called viewing a 'problem' around 2017 and 7nm onwards.

But new different technologies may save the day.

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Also 8k @ 24 inches? Why? Even with 4k, you will be able to play on a screen nearly the size of your wall and it'll still be insanely sharp. I don't even think you could tell the difference of 4k vs 8k until over 100" or so, and i'd think it'd be minor until about 150". Diminishing returns of even 1440p on 24" are pretty high.

That's what I thought as well but it turns out that mainly applies to Movies and TV and not gaming from a regular close distance (or of course Designing/CAD software). In regular monitor distances 8K is where it starts disappearing and it may even need 16K but that mainly for more close-up cases.
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That's what I thought as well but it turns out that mainly applies to Movies and TV and not gaming from a regular close distance (or of course Designing/CAD software). In regular monitor distances 8K is where it starts disappearing and it may even need 16K but that mainly for more close-up cases.

For PC gaming, I prefer my 55" Sony HX929 (1080p) @ 6 feet over my old 27" Samsung 850D (PLS Panel, 1440p) @ 2 feet... by a lot. So much that I returned the 850D. No monitor can compare with full array local dimming contrast ratio. Granted I'm comparing a $750 monitor to a $3000 TV, but still I don't see myself ever going back to a monitor. My next step will be a 55-65" 4K TV... OLED or not depending on prices in 2-3 years.

I think your going to start seeing a lot more people using TVs as monitors when 4K becomes mainstream. thumb.gif

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For PC gaming, I prefer my 55" Sony HX929 (1080p) @ 6 feet over my old 27" Samsung 850D (PLS Panel, 1440p) @ 2 feet... by a lot. So much that I returned the 850D. No monitor can compare with full array local dimming contrast ratio. Granted I'm comparing a $750 monitor to a $3000 TV, but still I don't see myself ever going back to a monitor. My next step will be a 55-65" 4K TV... OLED or not depending on prices in 2-3 years.

I think your going to start seeing a lot more people using TVs as monitors when 4K becomes mainstream. thumb.gif

Oh TVs are fine it's just that I thnk people often don't use a living room at all for gaming so it's usually restricted to some form of a regular desk.
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