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Anyone know of a good delid tool that works on Ivybridge and is cheaper than the more well known ones? I have done my 3570k with a razor and worked perfect. Just picked ul a 3770k and just dont want to risk it. TIA

Vice method would work perfectly if you don't wanna spend, providing you have one, theres a good twisting one a few pages back.
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Sorry guys, I was thinking of the MSi bare die bracket. Which is indeed a shim. Although that piece would qualify as a shim as well. Though am not sure what it actually does/accomplish. Looks kinda unnecessary if you catch my drift. Oh I get it now. Thin pcb needing thin plate to stiffen the CPU. So if I've got this figured out, it indeed qualifies as a shim. thinking.giftongue.gif

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Which one is that? And A shim fills a gap to mate two surfaces together or at least that's what I have been, taught, read, used?

You even used that definition yourself.
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Cause honestly it is a shim. If you've ever worked with furniture(specifically antique furniture) there are times you need to put a shim under a leg to level the piece.

Shims also support so technically speaking it is indeed a shim. But I am anal retentive since I am OCD. upsidedwnsmiley.gif

It's not supporting any weight other than the thin ace pcb underneath. Suspension bridges do the same but they don't qualify as shims. biggrin.gif lol

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Wouldn't it be a shim for the pcb and not for the die...? Makes sense to me
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Wouldn't it be a shim for the pcb and not for the die...? Makes sense to me

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Shims also support so technically speaking it is indeed a shim. But I am anal retentive since I am OCD. upsidedwnsmiley.gif

It's not supporting any weight other than the thin ace pcb underneath. Suspension bridges do the same but they don't qualify as shims. biggrin.gif lol

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Let's agree to disagree and leave it there lol. thumb.gif
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A shim is something that fills a gap by a set amount. Ie the shim fills the gap above the pcb/beside the die. Bringing the height of the pcb up to support heatsink/block above transfering weight to a larger surface area. Thus less weight or force on the die, preventing cracking. Its supporting the heatsink/block because thats what is applying the force not the pcb.its transferring force to the pcb around the die. Not sure if what i said is completely relevant but yeah...

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I'm skeptical about what my CLU would look like once I remove the H100i block. Had this application for little over a year, temps have been the same since then. Temp averages 56c on 4790k @ 4.7GHz 1.236v.

Remount and tell me. Been wondering if i should remount my copper block and use clu.

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I would but I don't have any TIM left over to replace.
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A shim is something that fills a gap by a set amount. Ie the shim fills the gap above the pcb/beside the die. Bringing the height of the pcb up to support heatsink/block above transfering weight to a larger surface area. Thus less weight or force on the die, preventing cracking. Its supporting the heatsink/block because thats what is applying the force not the pcb.its transferring force to the pcb around the die. Not sure if what i said is completely relevant but yeah...

It reinforces the PCB to stop it bending, it doesn't actually touch the heatsink as it sits below the die which sits below the socket walls which is why people aren't running skylake chips naked.
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I did it again biggrin.gif

6700k with a vice only method. The temp dropped by ~ 20-23°C (average and peak).
CLU between die and IHS. MX4 between IHS and cooler

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Here the results for the temps for 4.7GHz @1.328V on air (EKL Alpenföhn Himalaya 2) running AIDA64


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