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post #1 of 8 Old 04-17-2008, 05:28 PM - Thread Starter
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I'm wondering out of these two processors, which would be faster?

A) P4 1.7ghz
B) Celeron D 3.33ghz


I have no idea, my guess is they are close...

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First, you cannot use the Pentium 4, 1.7GHz in your motherboard, since this is a socket 478 chip.

Second: here is some info the the CPUs:
http://compare.intel.com/PCC/showcha...128&familyID=1
http://compare.intel.com/PCC/showcha...&culture=en-US

You see that the pentium 4 runs on an FSB of 400MHz, and has 256kb cache. The Celly runs on an FSB of 533MHz, and has 256kb cache or 512kb cache.

Thus, the CLEAR winner is the Celly D, given the much higher clock speed. It'll outperform the P4 by a long shot.

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Alright, that was the info I was looking for... I don't plan to put it on this mainboard, I just was asking because I've got an AMD project coming together, and I was selling the other stuff...

Thanks man! That answered perfect!

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ok, gotcha

The P4 is simply half a generation older than the Celly D.

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Yeah, but ya never know with celeron's...


Or I should say, "I" never know...

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They are virtually the same chip. Celerons usually have less cache though. When you're comparing s478 Pentium 4 vs x478 celeron D, and the same for s775.


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The problem with the older celly's was that their performance was cripples by their little amount of Cache. With the celly D, this chanced, and those Celly D's are actually quite capable chips.

The best way is always to compare specs, and for a CPU you should look at the following:
  • Architecture: in this case, both Netburst. However, the 1.7GHz P4 is a Willamette core, which is the oldest P4 core. The Celeron D is either a Prescott or a Cedar Mill (is it the 355 or 356?), which is a much later version of the Netburst P4 architecture. Winner: Celly D
  • Cache: Either same cache (if you have the 355) or double the cache for the Celly (if you have the 356). Tie, or winner: Celly D
  • FSB: 533MHz v. 400MHz. Winner: Celly D
  • Socket: LGA775 v. 478. Winner: Celly D (support for DDR2, and just a newer technology)
  • Support: Celly D supports 64-bit, the P4 doesn't
  • Finally, clockspeed: since the Celly D is already ahead in almost every aspect, the nearly double clockspeed pushes it way ahead.

TnB= Gir: These chips are about as dissimilar as two chips can get within the same architecture (except Pentium D Dual Core). The Celeron D 3.33GHz he's talking about is either a 90mm or a 65nm chip, while the P4 1.7GHz is a 180nm chip... plus, quite a few differences in technology (64-bit most importantly).

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Alright, I'm trying to sell all of it, what is a fair asking price?

here is what I was throwing in the package deal...
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/sys/647086168.html

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