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post #21 of 32 Old 08-11-2016, 10:50 PM
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A 1440p gaming setup would look so much better than 1440x900 also.

You're honestly stressing way too much about the processor selection. An i5-6600K would last at least four or five years, long enough for a new memory standard to replace DDR4. The i5-2500K came out January 2011 and it wasn't worth it for early adopters to upgrade until Skylake came out last year, so over four and a half years. They also had the option to upgrade to an i7-2600K or any unlocked Ivy Bridge i5 or i7. Maybe if Sandy Bridge didn't overclock so well it wouldn't have last so long, but that's another conversation.

If you're worried about cores scaling with gaming, the most cost-effective option is the i7-5820K. Games like strong single-threaded performance and higher frequencies tend to help more than more cores or threads. The only reason to go with an i7-5930K or i7-6850K is PCI-e lanes. The i7-5820K and i7-6800K offer 28 PCI-e lanes while the two aforementioned processors offer 40 PCI-e lanes. You would only need more than 28 if you're going to run more than four add-in cards. It depends on how the motherboard allocates the lanes. You should be able to run SLI with a sound card and PCI-e NVMe SSD just fine with 28 lanes.


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The only reason I have for choosing the 6850 is ignorance.I really don't understand enough to buy a cpu that I am sure will last several years in the gaming world.Some people are predicting games will soon need or at least benefit from more cores more threads/channels but I have been out of the loop for so long that I am finding out I have a lot more to learn than I first thought.
That is the foremost reason I am here and doing all the brain picking. Also VR gaming has got me a little confused as well.I wont be doing any VR gaming for a while so Ill keep reading about it and wait
As fore the choice of 4K I was in NCIX a while ago and saw a 4K res system (didn't play on it ) it looked so much better than what I have now that well It looked very nice.(drool fuel)biggrin.gif

> The only reason I have for choosing the 6850...

The 5820k, 5930k, 6800k, and 6850k all have 6 cores, but the lesser from each model year have fewer pcie lanes (28 vs 40). Those extra lanes can be useful for extra gpus and some newer ssds that don't use sata ports. If you're going to sli and use super fast m.2 ssds, then you'd probably will want the 40 lanes. A single gpu can use 16 lanes and I think an ssd can use 4x lanes. But if you're going to stick with a single gpu, the extra lanes are not at all needed (nor the price of them wanted).

(edit: although gpus don't have to use 16x lanes, they can use 8x lanes and perform quite well all the same. so you certainly can do sli with just 28 lanes and many people do)

I haven't done sli and personally wouldn't want to hassle with it. Cooling gets much more difficult, power requirements are way higher, not to mention game compatibility issues.

> As fore the choice of 4k...

Not surprising considering the screen you have now is an old 1440 x 900 TN panel.

1440p is not as many pixels as 4k, but its a huge step up from where your at, 1440p is 2560x1440. If you get that in a nice IPS panel with a fast refresh rate, a single gtx1080 can drive the most demanding games at 100hz +. I think monitors like these are the sweet spot right now.

* Asus ROG Swift PG279Q
* Acer Predator XB271HU

A form factor that i think might be nice are the 34" curved ultra-wides at 3440x1440, but I'm not so sure about compatibility with that odd aspect ratio, and also i think it may be too many pixels for a single card to maintain fast refresh rates in demanding games, maybe when 1080ti drops?

Whatever you decide to do, have fun putting it together and gaming on it smile.gif

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You dont need a 1200 watt PSU for a system that will draw less then 300 watts

Even an 850 watt PSU is way overkill for a system with one video card
Modern PC hardware uses a lot less power then most think it does and most gaming machines dont draw more then 200-250 watts even with overclocks on everything

Last forget about 4K and get a high refresh rate 1440P monitor instead.

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Someone on Twitch tried convincing me their overclocked i5 drew 200 watts. It's crazy the kids you run into on the internet.


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Also if you are not already aware the 80 plus rating has NOTHING to do with the quality of the unit and you can get junk that is Titanium rated
So please dont think higher 80 plus rating means its a better PSU thats one of the most common misconceptions

Build quality ripple suppression and voltage regulation is what makes something good not what efficiency badge it has slapped on.
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Someone on Twitch tried convincing me their overclocked i5 drew 200 watts. It's crazy the kids you run into on the internet.
Did you say something back?

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Of course. I told them I found it hard to believe an i5 would draw that many watts on its own. That the voltage requirement would likely kill the processor instantly.


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Nice, coolermaster's psu calculator is actually pretty good, it doesn't come up with stupidly overkill recommendations at all.

http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

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I generally go with about 50 to 100 more watts than PCPartPicker indicates to account for overclocking.


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Thanks for the psu calculator link.I took the psu I had down a couple of notches I did go a little higher than they recommended but only for future upgrades.
I am still working on the cpu though.That is one of the most complicated things for me to figure out.I can afford a high end version but have had more than one person
saying that a 5820 is fine.If I do end up with 2x1080 strix would the 5820 be a bottleneck?As well I need to think of the future and VR.I don't mind paying more even if
any benefits would be seen only in the future.
The psu I had selected was based not on price but on efficiency.92%+.I knew at the time I chose it that it was overkill.I just didn't know what kind of system I would end up with or its power requirements.I had to put something in.smile.gif
I have changed my monitor as well I like the idea of 4K but so many have said higher refresh that I came to a compromise.Acer Predator X34 34.0" 100Hz Monitor.high def but over- clockable to 100hz;When I go in to order the parts Ill try one out if they still have one setup .
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Thank you all for not treating me like an idiot.I know I have a lot to learn but if anything irritates me more than rudeness or a condescending attitude I don't know what it is.thumb.gif
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