Any point in getting a 120Hz TN panel for gaming if your GPU can't handle extremely high FPS? - Overclock.net

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post #1 of 6 Old 08-24-2013, 05:16 PM - Thread Starter
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Sorry if this is a very basic question. I'm still learning the fundamentals of PC monitor tech.

So I've been looking into 120Hz and 144Hz panels for my gaming PC. I current have an Asus VG248QE, but am considering returning it due to the picture quality being subpar. Before I look more into getting another monitor though, I was wondering whether a 120Hz or 144Hz display would be necessary for my rig. I am currently running a single GTX 570. I expect with most games would not be able to hit 120fps unless I really drop down the graphical settings at 1080p (something I would not like to do; I like my games looking pretty tongue.gif). I'm planning on getting a GTX 780 sometime in January, but I would assume that games coming out by then would be much more hardware demanding (with the PS4 and Xbox One being out by then). So it looks like in the foreseeable future I will not have a PC than can get anywhere near 120fps.

With that in mind, is there any other reason why I should look into getting a 120Hz TN panel? If not, I was considering looking into getting an IPS screen that has relatively low response time and ghosting (like the NEC MultiSync EA244WMI-BK).
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Can you hit 60+ fps?
Anything between 60 to 120 fps displays on 120 hz refresh rate LCDs, unless you have Vsync turned on in game

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IPS will never be as fast as TN in response time. But TN will never look as good as IPS. The reason why people go 120hz gaming is because they can push >60fps. Thats like saying; why do people go 1440p if your gpu cant handle extremely high resolutions? There are plenty of people who do; because their GPU can.

You can push >60 fps if you play on low settings or something. Thats just something you have to sacrifice if you dont have strong enough gpu power. I say, stick with a 60hz panel for now then upgrade to 120hz when you can. TN panels tend to have higher refresh rates and lower response time than IPS; therefore they are more suited for a competitive gamer. But if you are just a casual gamer who prefers colors over response time/refresh rate... then yes an IPS has more value to your personal needs.

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EDIT: Benefits of having a 120Hz+ monitor with a gpu that cannot push it == disable v-sync at all times since your fps will not go over your refresh rate. You should never see tearing or ghosting and your input latency will be minimal as long as your fps can be as high as it can be

The main reason you go for those monitors is for the reduced input latency and smoothness of the high refresh rate. You can disable v-sync and let your fps run wild (usually) without having to worry about tearing or other problems since your refresh rate is double (The reason why v-sync was invented on 60Hz).

You have a Asus VG248QE which runs at 144Hz+ amirite? You might want to look at the Lightboost mod that makes playing stuff on those monitors as smooth as if you were back on a CRT.

You want to stay on 120Hz+ if you play fast reaction speed games, FPS's, racing games etc. otherwise you go for image quality on an IPS to make things look good. It's a shame you can't get both worlds yet (without going Korean) but hopefully the standard will raise from 60Hz late on...

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I'd like to see a guy show up with a 60 Hz IPS panel at a quake tourney and play against the guys with 160 Hz CRT's. He would get utterly destroyed. I can't even use 60 Hz monitors non-desktop anymore, makes baby jesus cry.
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Yes, do buy one. Buy it before the model goes out of production and you can't get them anymore. That way you can always have 120hz and the benefits it brings whether you can push 120fps or not. The benefits are already there you just need the hardware to exploit them thumb.gif

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I'll probably just stick with a 60Hz panel then and find one that has low response time, input lag, and no ghosting issues. I tried playing Saints Row IV (a game that shouldn't really be stressing the GPU) with Vsync off and I could get it to pull off a consistent +70fps unless I set every graphical setting on low @ 1080p.

Do you guys have any recommendations for monitors with good picture quality that are at least viable for gaming? The only monitor that seems to fit the bill perfectly is that 23" Eizo Foris, but good lord is it pricey for such a small monitor. I guess you get what you pay for though.
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