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Interesting stuff . If correct or near correct this die is about 70% of the silicon of the 1070 or 1080.

So i guess if people are trying to put this into the same category as Nvs 1070 then they are well off. Much cheaper and smaller GPU than the 1070. Its going to be hard for people to argue AMD missed the mark with this card when it never was intended to fight with 40% larger gpus (although i think it will get nearer in dx12). I'm curious to see how many transistors they say it has , it will tell us something about 14 nm vs 16 nm processes.

I think the 480 will overclock % wise better however than the 1070 allowing it to get nearer , seem as the overclocking is quite tame on 1070/1080. In DX12 it could be near seeing as Fury X is better than 1070 now in DX12 titles.

Time will tell but i'm sure this card has good breathing room, AMD has been berated for so long over performance per watt they'll likely underclock at this point in time to get good metrics - with the over importance that's been placed on power efficiency these days - eventually are we going to make a big deal of 10watt differences at 5nm etc ??. Also price protection for Fury also makes sense to place it lower in the product stack.

I wish i was in the market for one but have Titans so i'll wait for Vega but man i'm excited for AMD and think this card will be a hit.

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I wonder if this chip can clock to 2ghz like the 1070 and 1080 series? rolleyes.gif

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I wonder if this chip can clock to 2ghz like the 1070 and 1080 series? rolleyes.gif

Even better - they get more than 10% improvement from their overclocking thumb.gif , that's what count's - how much it actually improves things.

Remember the Pentium 4 .. it wasn't that great but clocked like mad , then the core 2 came along and demolished it at much lower clocks. Mhz does not really mean that much when comparing AMD to NV.

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Because working at a retailer means you have in depth knowledge of AMDs GPU designs and development.

Not only that, but apparently they are also busy flashing new higher-clocked BIOSes on all the cards. rolleyes.gif

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Not only that, but apparently they are also busy flashing new higher-clocked BIOSes on all the cards. rolleyes.gif

And the AMD Master computer will automatically flash the GPUs to the next BIOS when they are installed on a network connected computer.
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LOL, but all the sarcasms are welcomed, because things do not always work just like in US.
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Not only that, but apparently they are also busy flashing new higher-clocked BIOSes on all the cards. rolleyes.gif

Hey, watch your sarcasm, my friends brothers math teachers uncles nephew is a bios. So you know, he's into tech stuff (literally) he knows.
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This is just the "470" she held up. Appears to be shader-cut 480.
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Minus the FuryX. I'm at a +9% overclock (1150mhz) and it's taken a fair bit of voltage (+46mv). Can get it to 1160/1170 but it needs +100mv, fairly broken. I'd say the average overclock is even lower from what I have read, and highest stable for gaming i've seen is around 1180 with a ridiculous +100mv
That's why I said 10-15% is delightfully average. Even Fiji, the worst of the last many generations in terms of overclocking, tends to get nearly 10%. Others often get upwards of 25%.
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Nicely done there, mate thumb.gif

Actually retailers are stocking up their inventory with cards, both ref and custom AIB. And I have a mate happens to work at a big retailer (Sapphire representative in his country as well) and don't even need a time travel machine.

From his info, AMD could actually have thrown the efficiency away and brought on table a 1070 contender, with hefty price as well. But lucky for us they didn't play that game. They put the card at its comfort zone with modest clock and price. The dirty job of stretching the card belongs to the AIBs and us thumb.gif
You're right. Why would I be skeptical of someone saying that their "friend's info" relates to AMD's leanings toward efficiency and yield targets as they pertain to clock rates.

We have 1070 reviews already, and we already know that 1070 performance is well below that of the 1080. It's feasible that an overclocked Polaris 10 will be able to perform comparably, based on the benchmarks we do have, and the assumption that a 15% overclock will be achievable. That's not a bad guess, but it is a guess.

The only thing I find objectionable, is when people present their guesses as facts.. or when they try to bolster their position by saying they have a "friend" who has their hands on the card and can "confirm".. as if that could possibly be any kind of confirmation on an open forum of this type. Neither of these things offer any kind of material substance to the conversation.

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