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post #1 of 19 Old 12-10-2012, 08:07 PM - Thread Starter
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Hello everyone. So my girlfriend has decided that she wants me to build her a PC for Christmas. Requirements:
SFF (mITX or mATX)
Budget of ~$600 or so
Not looking for max performance, but good enough for tasks (listed below)
AMD

Tasks:
Photoshop CS6, Lightroom -- RAW image editing
Word/Excel -- School work
Facebook and typical internet browsing

Case:
I'm not familiar with SFF builds really, so for a case I am looking around $100 or less. Bitfenix Prodigy? I'd prefer mITX. If I go with a socket FM2 build, I would add another GPU later for crossfire.
CPU:
Thinking about an A10-5800K (No reason not too at the price). If I go AM3+, it would be a FX-630 probably
Motherboard:
ASRock FM2A75M-ITX (if FM2)
No idea (AM3+)
RAM:
16GB (2133Mhz or faster) -- Recommendations?
HDD:
Some 128GB SSD -- Probably a Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe
PSU:
Recommendations? Something powerful enough, plus a future card to Crossfire with A10-5800K. 80+ Bronze or better

I would also like great air circulation, and sound isn't a big concern but not overly loud.

Thoughts?




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Check out my 2 SFF build logs for ideas (links in my signature) smile.gif

By the way, the Bitfenix Prodigy is not small at all for a Mini-ITX case, so I do not recommend it if you actually want a small system. My Silverstone SG09 is a smaller case than the Prodigy and it fits a larger Micro-ATX motherboard.
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Yeah, and if you want even smaller, you can go sugo sg05. His isk 110 is a ton smaller, but no gpu.
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Yeah, and if you want even smaller, you can go sugo sg05. His isk 110 is a ton smaller, but no gpu.

If the OP doesn't plan to play games and just wants to use the system for things like Photoshop, the built in GPU on modern processors is more than fine. But yes, one of the limitations of the ISK 110 is not being able to have a dedicated GPU. The gain is a huge reduction in case size.

By the way, if you plan to do a lot of RAW image editing, I recommend getting a Sandy or Ivy Bridge Core i5 rather than an AMD chip. I'm a photographer myself and certain tasks in Photoshop and Lightroom are quite CPU intensive. CS6 and LR4 definitely run much faster on my i7 system than they do on my older Core 2 Quad system (which is comparable to a modern AMD processor), so I would recommend against going with AMD for heavy photo editing. The other benefit is that Ivy Bridge CPUs consume less power than the Trinity APUs, which is a benefit when you're trying to fit everything into a small package.
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Yeah, I'm sure Intel would be great, but I want to go AMD. I'm not looking for the best, but good enough...and currently, image editing is happening on an older tri-core Phenom with 5GB of DDR2 RAM. Light-to-medium gaming (WoW, Sims, and other similar games) will be happening.

I'm pretty sure I want to go with the ASRock mITX board with an A10-5800K, but need recommendations on case and PSU.




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No one interested in advising on a case and/or PSU because I'm going with AMD?

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As many have stuck with <100W CPUs, and with no previous experience of the FM2 format, I guess not.

Nearest I have is an i7 870 OC'd to 100W using a Corsair H70 in a Fractal Array II case, you might look at the Fractal Node 304 as it is better priced, and will take an ATX PSU and a dual slot GPU later.

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No one interested in advising on a case and/or PSU because I'm going with AMD?
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for your purpose, since you don't game on the machine, this should be enough
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No one interested in advising on a case and/or PSU because I'm going with AMD?
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for your purpose, since you don't game on the machine, this should be enough

OP seems pretty set on going AMD, even though that means he'll likely be paying more in the end for a system with a slower processor.

An i5-3570K runs perfectly on the stock PSU, no unervolting/underclocking needed.

A Trinity A10-5800K will most certainly not run on the stock PSU, and even with a 150W Pico-PSU, undervolting/underclocking may be required. Once you factor in the cost of the Pico PSU + power brick (around $80), the AMD option is no cheaper and is most definitely slower for the tasks OP wants to do (photo/video editing).
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oh i'm not suggesting he go with an intel. i'm just saying the antec ISK 110 would be more then enough for his purpose biggrin.gif he can pick up a FM2 ITX board of his choice and build it inside the ISK 110 and be perfectly happy with the result. but yah he'd need a better power brick for that case. as you mentioned, it may end up being more expensive... but it's ALOT smaller smile.gif
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