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I love my S4. The battery is more than capable of what I want, the screen is great and the performance has been awesome. I've dropped it twice, once on tiles that left no mark and once on a parking lot surface that left a small scratch on the top part of the screen next to the Samsung Logo, luckily not on the display itself so you can't really see it.
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well i guess i can jump into buying an LG G2 or the new Nokia 1520...i have always liked samsung and htc phones ( owned a couple) but if this is the way they show us performance by cheating...then im not buying their phones anymore

This news really shouldn't dictate whether to buy one of their devices or not. It's not as if the performance isn't there. We know which chip the device uses, we know how it performs. They just happened to "cheat" by allowing the chip to run at 100% the entire time during the benchmark (ignoring the usual thermal safety). That doesn't mean you're buying a device with an inferior chip on the inside.

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What's all the fuss about benchmarks ?! They don't really matter that much in smartphones
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This news really shouldn't dictate whether to buy one of their devices or not. It's not as if the performance isn't there. We know which chip the device uses, we know how it performs. They just happened to "cheat" by allowing the chip to run at 100% the entire time during the benchmark (ignoring the usual thermal safety). That doesn't mean you're buying a device with an inferior chip on the inside.

It's problematic though, because it gives an advantage to smartphones that do this. Which naturally means all other smartphones manufacturers will try and do this so as to not appear less powerful, which essentially means doing it in the first place will be completely pointless.

 

And as Anandtech summed up in his article on it, as the popular benchmarks change every year or two and devices are "optimised" for different benchmarks, it'll become nightmarish to compare a bunch of different smartphones because they'll all be optimised for different tests and the results will be... unpleasant to sort through.

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It's problematic though, because it gives an advantage to smartphones that do this. Which naturally means all other smartphones manufacturers will try and do this so as to not appear less powerful, which essentially means doing it in the first place will be completely pointless.

And as Anandtech summed up in his article on it, as the popular benchmarks change every year or two and devices are "optimised" for different benchmarks, it'll become nightmarish to compare a bunch of different smartphones because they'll all be optimised for different tests and the results will be... unpleasant to sort through.

An advantage in what way though ? Sales ? I don't think so, If more than 1 in 10.000 people actually doesn't buy a phone because it does better in benchmark X due to cheating. I'd be really surprised.

No-one outside of my tech-savy circle of 5 friends even knows there's a small cpu in a smartphone that can be used to "benchmark aka what the hell is that" it against other phones.

I don't approve of this practice, and I agree that bench-marking phones would become useless if it's a widespread phenomenon but I am saying, the impact is so small, I don't think it'll have any effect apart from some 0.0001% of sales.

If you didn't mean sales, then disregard my entire response tongue.gif

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An advantage in what way though ? Sales ? I don't think so, If more than 1 in 10.000 people actually doesn't buy a phone because it does better in benchmark X due to cheating. I'd be really surprised.

No-one outside of my tech-savy circle of 5 friends even knows there's a small cpu in a smartphone that can be used to "benchmark aka what the hell is that" it against other phones.

I don't approve of this practice, and I agree that bench-marking phones would become useless if it's a widespread phenomenon but I am saying, the impact is so small, I don't think it'll have any effect apart from some 0.0001% of sales.

If you didn't mean sales, then disregard my entire response tongue.gif

An advantage in that it appears more powerful, and that can effect sales. It's impossible to quantify how many of the average joe goes online and does any kind of research about their next purchase, but regardless of whether they do or not, information spreads quickly by word of mouth. Of course though, other companies will match this as quickly as possible and thus the whole point becomes moot but we're left with a mess.


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An advantage in that it appears more powerful, and that can effect sales. It's impossible to quantify how many of the average joe goes online and does any kind of research about their next purchase, but regardless of whether they do or not, information spreads quickly by word of mouth. Of course though, other companies will match this as quickly as possible and thus the whole point becomes moot but we're left with a mess.

I agree that we can't quantify the effects of this but I think it's safe to say, any effect it might have in sales should be expressed in maybe a few thousands world wide, not hundreds of thousands and not even close to a million.

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I love my S4. The battery is more than capable of what I want, the screen is great and the performance has been awesome. I've dropped it twice, once on tiles that left no mark and once on a parking lot surface that left a small scratch on the top part of the screen next to the Samsung Logo, luckily not on the display itself so you can't really see it.

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After downgrading from a Galaxy Note 2 to a Galaxy S 4 I learned my lesson. The Galaxy Note 2 ran everything smoothly and I never had an issue with it. Once I got my Galaxy S 4 I installed 3 games and I already was out of space 9GB of actual storage space. The phone stutters every time you open the application drawer or switch between home screens. The rom uses 1.7GB of ram and when closing apps it drops to 1.5GB, couldn't believe they released a phone with so many software issues. I returned the phone 14 days after and bought a HTC One and was a happy camper than bought a Nexus 5 because I enjoy flashing roms biggrin.gif

The Nexus 5 does have aggressive throttling, usually scores around 20-25k in Antutu and when I put it in the freezer it scores 28-32k
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The Nexus 5 does have aggressive throttling, usually scores around 20-25k in Antutu and when I put it in the freezer it scores 28-32k
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