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All OS's have security vulnerabilities. The clue to a good OS is how quickly these vulnerabilities are patched.
Well thants windows out...well the window. No im joking. I find MS to be fairly responsive when it comes down to patches and fixes.

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post #22 of 52 Old 04-22-2008, 04:52 AM
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Where did you draw that? Vista was hacked before Linux.
Where did I draw that? It's called seeing it done.
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your original statement gave the impression that you wanted to move to linux because windows has bad security which is a very poor argument.
Not saying windows is secure or not - how is security a poor argument? If he thinks windows isn't secure enough for him, isn't that a good enough reason to switch?

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Same programmers can make the same flaws twice. I've experienced this in far simpler situations.
I suppose. But if they built this HUGE thing from the ground up, I think the chance would be rather low that this would happen. Of course I'm just speculating; none of US could possibly know for sure, unless one of us were a microsoft dev.

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Linux is in fact more vulnerable than Vista as is Mac. Did you see where the team hacked into a macbook air and took control of it in less than a minute?
Wait, how does that work?

OSX was hacked... Then vista was hacked... Linux was NOT hacked... Therefore, "Linux is in fact more vulnerable than vista?"

That doesn't add up, bro.

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Well thants windows out...well the window. No im joking. I find MS to be fairly responsive when it comes down to patches and fixes.
Yes, I agree. Support for windows is generally good.

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Linux is in fact more vulnerable than Vista as is Mac. Did you see where the team hacked into a macbook air and took control of it in less than a minute?
actually in the Pwn2Own comp Mac was hacked first, followed by Vista, and Linux wasnt even cracked.

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Where did you draw that? Vista was hacked before Linux.
indeed it was; however, in my opinion the reason Linux wasnt hacked/left until last, was due to its popularity/respect among experienced users.

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Also if 90% of people would use Linux it would be more interesting for hackers to search holes.
completely agree with this point. If Linux was in M$'s spot, a lot more bugs would be found and exploited in the Linux kernel.

BUT, it would be interesting to see nonetheless. i wonder if the attacks on M$ and Mac are nothing but attacks at large corporations rather than common operating systems. Perhaps that is the reason why in the Pwn2Own comp, Linux was attempted AFTER Vista and Mac OSX.

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Where did I draw that? It's called seeing it done.
You referenced PWN to OWN, and in that competition Vista lost out to Linux. How did you draw the conclusion from that that Linux was less secure?

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indeed it was; however, in my opinion the reason Linux wasnt hacked/left until last, was due to its popularity/respect among experienced users.
That was a point brought up before, since the Linux laptop costs less then a Vista laptop there was more motivation to hack the Vista laptop.
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How did you draw the conclusion from that that Linux was less secure?
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That was a point brought up before, since the Linux laptop costs less then a Vista laptop there was more motivation to hack the Vista laptop.
I thought we disregarded this, since the prize money is worth more than any of those computers + software combined. It makes the most sense to go for the easiest one to win the $10k, not to get the (maximum) $2k laptop.

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I thought we disregarded this, since the prize money is worth more than any of those computers + software combined. It makes the most sense to go for the easiest one to win the $10k, not to get the (maximum) $2k laptop.
I must have unsubscribed to the thread before this conclusion was drawn.
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There are always going to be hacked OS's why would a hacker waste time on Linux when there are million more users in Windows were he can screw up their computers?

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I thought vista was built "from the ground up."

They shoulda used this in pwn2own.
lol, you honestly think they scrapped ALL the code from all previous versions and wrote this from scratch? That is funny. How much do you think that would cost them?

I don't remember ever hearing they wrote it from the ground up. I heard they re-worked parts of the kernal and security systems.


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Wow before you idiots start flaming I didn't even know linux was in that pwn 2 own or whatever. I read about it in an article. How about give someone a ****ing chance to talk before you outright flame for no reason? And I have seen linux hacked. I know 2 people capable of doing it.
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