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There was a fifth giant planet in the solar system, but it was ejected after a close encounter with Jupiter, a computer model made by Canadian astronomers suggests. They studied the orbits of Jovian moons for proof.

The dominant scientific view of how our star system came to be as it is now is called the Nice model after the French city, where it was first developed. It is pretty good at explaining most, but not all things. For example, Jupiter is too far from the Sun to fit the model.

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Hey look, it is Apophis/Nibiru/Planet X.

You know somebody is going to seriously suggest it. I just figured I'd beat the crowd.
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Hey look, it is Apophis/Nibiru/Planet X.

You know somebody is going to seriously suggest it. I just figured I'd beat the crowd.

No more ridiculous a theory than anything else out there.

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No more ridiculous a theory than anything else out there.
I disagree. A body of such size that frequently (on an astronomical scale) reentered the solar equatorial plane/region would result in much more orbital variation within the planets than we currently see. There is no evidence to support the hypothesis, aside from admittedly fascinating anecdotal tales from antiquity that sadly could be referring to any number of things.
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I disagree. A body of such size that frequently (on an astronomical scale) reentered the solar equatorial plane/region would result in much more orbital variation within the planets than we currently see. There is no evidence to support the hypothesis, aside from admittedly fascinating anecdotal tales from antiquity that sadly could be referring to any number of things.

I read this several times. Each time I couldn't help but imagine an old English fellow saying it.
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That explains the gap that an asteroid belt now occupies...and where the belt came from.

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And I just learned about Scholz's star. The universe is really a strange place.
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Hey look, it is Apophis/Nibiru/Planet X.

You know somebody is going to seriously suggest it. I just figured I'd beat the crowd.
Yes, there's no "Nibiru" heading our way. Don't fall for this scam smile.gif
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Well, it's fairly likely that some point early on there was a 5th rock or gas giant... and in most of the models adding a planet there makes things unstable and eventually flung away.
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Well, it's fairly likely that some point early on there was a 5th rock or gas giant... and in most of the models adding a planet there makes things unstable and eventually flung away.
It also answers where the missing mass in our solar system went, why Jupiter failed to gain enough mass to make our star system binary, etc. This really isn't ground breaking news. It is just important to note this planet isn't coming back. Ever.
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