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So sad to hear this news , it felt like we are going backwards instead of pushing forward :/

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Actually, what I said was is that they are trolling, and that is against the TOS:

http://www.overclock.net/a/terms-of-service

And the moderators are not able to keep up with the trolls, therefore I think it should be locked. Besides, both sides have made any constructive argument that they will ever make, any further commentary is entirely redundant.

I respectfully disagree.

This is my own opinion, but the better course of action would be to see what new developments can come of this. A few trolls trying to force a topic from being discussed is a form of censorship that the ISP’s want. I would much rather have the opportunity to learn more about this from posters more familiar on the topic than I am even if they are far and few between all the other opinions on here including my own.
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I was referring to heavy lifting of the various video services (source, on-demand, PPV, etc). Perhaps it's a difference of where we worked and how it was designed, but there was significant hardware well north of the CMTS. This was done in two places (active/hot spare) only and was not geographically local. I can say that is not how I would have designed it but...it is what it is. smile.gif

The other Head-end hardware you are talking about is sort of what I was referring to in my ** at the bottom, I left it out due to length of the conversation already. Your decoders, encoders, dishes, and LNBs all do have costs associated to them, but they are minimal compared to a fully populated CMTS. Hell, unless Fox and other networks have stopped, they usually sent out the decoders themselves, relieving the provider of the upfront cost of that.

It was around ~16 years ago that it cost around $35,000 to convert an Analog cable Head-end to a Digital one, plus the upgrades on the plant itself. Additional services like PPV are now more complex in their software than the hardware.

To be clear, I am not saying providers don't have costs, they do, and those costs can be significant. However, these large providers do have the capacity and ability to handle them. More importantly I am trying to kill this Swan Song by providers on how hard it is.

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Eh, Bandwidth is bandwidth. They monitor where the traffic is going (which is needed for capacity management) and try to stay ahead of demand, as well as to identify when peering is needed. Each destination has its own "exit ramp" from your ISP. It's not a magical singular pipe that everything flows between.
Back when I still had my old internet provider (which I was happy to ditch as soon as a good alternative was available), my bandwidth and ping were regularly compromised in the evening (when most people had arrived from work). Contracted speed and stability came back in the morning. That ISP obviously didn't have the appropriate infrastructure in place to guarantee optimal service during peak hours, and that was before Netflix or any streaming service became mainstream.

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Until said ISP block access to your VPN domain lol

I know, but in theory, all they should see is encrypted traffic. No way ISPs will start to block encrypted traffic.

You can easily make your own VPN service if you rent out a virtual server from someone... Then your ISP will have to start blocking the virtual server company's domain... even more stringent.

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This is the lengths they went to get this thing. Picking on dead people. Good lord these shills have no ethics in them.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/14/fake-net-neutrality-comments-stolen-identities/


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Schneiderman once called out the FCC for refusing to look into the issue. His office apparently requested for FCC's records nine times between June and November, but it never received any concrete response. Earlier this month, the commission finally agreed to cooperate with the New York Attorney General, giving Schneiderman's team a way to finally start analyzing all the anti-net neutrality spam that flooded the commission's website.

Refuse to cooperate and then pretend to just a few days before the decision. There are several traits of bad faith here.
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This is the lengths they went to get this thing. Picking on dead people. Good lord these shills have no ethics in them.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/14/fake-net-neutrality-comments-stolen-identities/
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