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Valve is afraid of becoming Netscape 2.0. Microsoft is good at crushing competition. Embrace, extend, extinguish.

... what? How is Valve a competitor to Microsoft? Did Valve make a console that's doing really well that I was unaware of?

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So?
Valve makes games, indeed some of the best games currently out there. They have more than just an online store. Even completely disregarding Steam, Valve develops for Windows, and I repeat, Microsoft needs developers. Developers, developers, developers, developers.

Microsoft does not make any money directly off of Valve, so they do not need it. Want to attract developers? The Microsoft Marketplace is Microsoft's shot at that. An easy to access, installed on every computer marketplace is a dream for indie developers, and there are a lot of those on Valve that will consider moving to Microsoft for greater exposure.

That is what Gabe is afraid of, indie developers leaving Steam for Marketplace. Big ticket games will continue to be distributed through their normal channels (like Origin, B&M stores, etc).

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... what? How is Valve a competitor to Microsoft? Did Valve make a console that's doing really well that I was unaware of?

Game/app store competitors. Microsoft made GFWL to compete against Steam but failed. Microsoft will try again with Windows 8 Store. Microsoft is also competing against Apple's iTunes/AppStore.

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linux will never be popular with commercial software, no open source system will be unless they somehow assure private companies that their intellectual property will be protected.

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Man, Valve seem really worried by the Windows 8 store, and rightly so. Not much they can do other than continue to ensure Steam is a superior experience. They do have the advantage of already having a large user base, so as long as they don't mess up big time they should be fine.

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linux will never be popular with commercial software, no open source system will be unless they somehow assure private companies that their intellectual property will be protected.

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x86 tablets are still completely open. ARM tablets are closed, and probably for a good reason too. People would come crying to Microsoft why their internet downloaded software won't work on their ARM tablet.
I''m not arguing whether Windows 8 is an "open platform", the point is that the direction Microsoft is headed is toward a closed system that they have explicit control of. That's all fine and dandy for profits but personally I would rather stick with Windows 7/Vista/XP.
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Corporate is a huge customer for Microsoft, and they won't tolerate a move like that. Forcing their proprietary non-public programs to go through the app-store simply won't sit well with them, and they would rather switch to Linux than go through Microsoft. Be realistic and think, will you?
Most corporations that use Windows are still using XP because it's what their private applications were made to run on, and and a switch to linux is completely unrealistic in this instance. Maybe you're the one who needs to be more pragmatic?
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And yes, self-serving. If his comments earlier in the year doesn't mean anything to you, and you don't think that the sentiments he showed early on has any bearing on this, think again. Gabe Newell isn't some angelic savior of the gaming world, he's a businessman and a capitalist like everyone else.
You mean Gabe Newell didn't fall from the stars in 1AD to die for our sins!?!?!? So Gabe hates Windows 8 because metro, no start menu, and the reasons other people hate it for but that's not cool because it isn't your opinion and everyone else is wrong? Great, case closed.rolleyes.gif

Gabe Newell isn't a businessman, he's an entrepreneur who quit working for Microsoft in the 90's to find something he enjoyed doing. I don't know why you're so infatuated with the idea of loathing him when he's one of the most brutally honest men in the technology industry. Maybe you should spend less time hating on things that don't tickle your fancy?

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Man, Valve seem really worried by the Windows 8 store, and rightly so. Not much they can do other than continue to ensure Steam is a superior experience. They do have the advantage of already having a large user base, so as long as they don't mess up big time they should be fine.
I would call it an exit strategy.
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linux will never be popular with commercial software, no open source system will be unless they somehow assure private companies that their intellectual property will be protected.
You seem to not understand how licenses work. BSD, GPL, Fuse, Creative Commons, and many others have proprietary/commercial software in mind.
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Please let all my steam games become Linux usable. I will never go back to Windows Again. Especially if it works on Googles Chrome Linux OS.
ChromeOS probably won't see it because the entire OS is just a browser.
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Game/app store competitors. Microsoft made GFWL to compete against Steam but failed. Microsoft will try again with Windows 8 Store. Microsoft is also competing against Apple's iTunes/AppStore.

Well, fair enough. But if you're an app/game publisher, it seems silly to me that you'd opt for bringing your product to a 3rd party service that runs on top of an operating system, instead of straight to the operating system via the native app store. That's why I don't see these two as being direct competitors.

I don't think GFWL was an attempt to take down Steam, but an attempt to bridge the Xbox Live gaming community with PC gamers.

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If all my steam games worked on linux I would instantly switch to it.

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