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post #1 of 11 Old 05-13-2012, 11:39 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi everyone

I am about to embark on my first (attempt at) water build and have the first time jitters. I love to game and have overclocked my passed riggs as far as I could safely go on air but its time to get wet.
I have all the actually computer hardware and only need and want a new case as well as the necessary water cooling components. Ive watched hours of youtube water builds and read for months about other peoples and have finally got inspiration to take the dive.

I am planning on a single loop, only cooling the CPU and GPU.




Preliminary Water Cool Build List:

Case: SilverStone FT02 B-W 265.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163162
Radiator: Magic Cool 540mm X180 109.95 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14196/ex-rad-287/Magicool_Extreme_Triple_180mm_x_35mm_Slim_Radiator_MC-RADI180X3.html
Tubing: 1/2 inch Clear Don't know the pros and cons of tubing. Suggestions welcome. Going to be making the liquid White.
Resevior: Coolance RP452X2 129.99 http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2025
Pump: PMP-450 76.99 http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=PMP-450&product_id=493
Fan Controler: Sythe KAZE Master 6 Channel 44.99 http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/acc/077/km03_detail.html
CPU Block: EK-Supreme HF - EN (Nickel) 77.95 http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/blocks/cpu-blocks/ek-supreme-hf-en-nickel.html
GPU Block: EK-FC680 GTX - EN (Nickel) 122.00 http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/blocks/vga-blocks/fc-geforce/geforcegtx-6x0-series/ek-fc680-gtx-en-nickel.html

Fittings:
QDC (Extreme Flow) No-Spill, Male and Female 14.95 Each http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=62_60_104&product_id=1049
Filter


Compression/Fittings or Barbs??? Ive been researching for a bit now and but I'm not SURE of the right selections. As this is my first water cooling build I want to minimize the amount of time I am going to spend
ordering and then re-ording when I find out the components Ive ordered arnt compatible. Reference my (1st grade level) picture below and link to the build I am emulating.

You tube inspiration:
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By bulletlogic at 2012-05-13



90* ---2(First and second fitting after Res)---1(Res IN)
3 Total

45* ---2(CPU IN&OUT)---1(GPU IN)---2(Res/Pump IN&OUT)---1(Res OUT)
6 Total

180(Straight)*---1(GPU OUT maybe might go with another 45 degree elbow)\
1 Total


So what do you think? Again I have dreamed and read about water cooling for years and made numerous Air-Cooled builds but I am a babe in the woods when it comes to water and I am open to the wisdom or suggestions of the forum.

Build Log to follow.


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post #2 of 11 Old 05-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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My first question before anything else:

Are you absolutely confident in your skills at case modding, or willing to learn and possibly make a few mistakes drilling holes and cutting? Because that is what your proposed build is going to require. If not, stop now and rethink your parts. If so, carry on.

As for the other questions I can answer:

Tubing: I prefer either 1/2" ID 3/4" OD, or 3/8" ID 5/8" OD. The thicker walls help prevent kinking when bending the tube. There is no discernible performance difference between the two sizes. The 3/8" ID will be easier to bend in tight spaces, the 1/2" ID will look better if you're fond of bigger tubing. I use Primochill LRT tubing, although some people will swear by Feser and Tygon.

That bay reservoir should be used with two 450 pumps, although it is possible to use only one. Your single loop really only requires one pump, and I would highly suggest looking at the XSPC D5 bay reservoir. The Koolance PMP450 and Swiftech MCP655 are all the same exact pumps, and they're a rebrand of the Laing D5.

I wouldn't recommend EK because of the crap they pulled last year with their nickel plating process, and would instead recommend Heatkiller and Aquacomputer for the GPU blocks, and the Swiftech Apogee HD, XSPC Raystorm, or the new kid on the block, DT 5Noz.

As for barbs vs compression, both work equally well. The main question is, is aesthetics important to you, and how much are you willing to pay for it? Because the cost of compression fittings can easily be 5 to 7 times the cost of barbs, and with barbs for your setup coming out to be ~$20-40, compressions can come out to be $100-200.

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Don't get too scared with the previous poster's first paragraph. If you're not too confident with drilling holes in your case, just pick a large enough case which won't require it. I know my own Cosmos II will require only a plier to move two little hooks out of the way but other than that, nothing too technical is required. smile.gif

And I agree with the previous poster, barbs and compression fittings, they're equally good. Just pick one that looks nice to you, without paying too much for it.

Could you also share with us your rig? I mean, CPU, GPU, PSU,... smile.gif
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@Tsumi- Hey thanks for the reply. I have some average experience working with sheet metal and aluminum so im not to worried about popping a few rivets and drilling a hole or 3. Even with that said I AM expecting to mess something up but not anything so big that I cant compensate for it. I personally prefer the look of the 1/2x3/4 tubing. I am not to worried about kinking in the design I am pursuing . It doesnt have many bends in it really.

I like the Pump/Res combo you listed above. A bit easier on the wallet while still maintaining a nice clean look. And looks are mildly important to me. I show my babies off.

I DID actually read up on a post in here in the water section JUST after posting this last night about the problems EK has been having with their nickle plated blocks. Looked up some pictures as well and was shocked at the number of reports.

I like the XSPC Raystorm. Another question however. Are there any concerns when mixing and matching Nickle plated and copper in the same loop?

I think I will be going with the compression fittings. Yea they are more expensive but the clean look is important sense my case selection does have a window. Are there any White UV reactive additives for the water out there? Found lots of colors but nothing that really floats my boat yet.

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I was also hoping to find some nice clear acrylic faced CPU/GPU blocks. I really wanna see that white dyed liquid flowing around. The "Theme" of this build is going to be Snow and Ice. The Snow being the white coolant and the Blue ice is a reference to the blue colors prominent on the mobo.

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Hmm... your only choice would probably be EK with acrylic tops, I'm not sure of any other manufacturers that use acrylic tops.

I prefer to avoid dye because of the possibility it may gunk up your system, so I use UV reactive tubing with UV cold cathode lights instead.

Mixing nickel plating and regular copper blocks shouldn't matter. It's the copper + aluminum you have to watch out for, which is hardly necessary today. Only the old Koolance radiators used aluminum.

Go ahead and go forward with that case modding then, only way to get good is to do it yourself, right? wink.gif

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So I've read alot now about the plating issue that EK has experience. They also offer the EK-FC680 GTX http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/blocks/vga-blocks/fc-geforce/geforce-gtx-6x0-series/ek-fc680-gtx.html

May go with this if I dont find any issues with it during my googling.

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OOOOOk so i think I have finalized everything up..... Few things really quick. I really really like the res/pump combo from koolance and after watching and reading a bunch of reviews and comparisons I am going to get er. She looks to damn good. I am also going to get the EK CPU and GPU water blocks in the full copper renditions.

SOOOO here's the final list: Maybe....

Final (Maybe) Water Cool Build List:

Case: SilverStone FT02 B-W 265.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163162
Radiator: Magic Cool 540mm X180 109.95 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14196/ex-rad-287/Magicool_Extreme_Triple_180mm_x_35mm_Slim_Radiator_MC-RADI180X3.html
Resevior: Koolance RP452X2 129.99 http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2025
Pump: PMP-450 76.99 http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=PMP-450&product_id=493
Fan Controler: Scythe Kaze Master Ace 42.95 http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/acc/077/km03_detail.html
CPU Block: EK-Supreme HF 71.95 http://www.frozencpu.com/process
GPU Block: EK-FC680 GTX 105.95 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15617/ex-blc-1084/EK_GeForce_680_GTX_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Acrylic_EK-FC680_GTX.html?tl=g30c357s922
Total: 803.77


ALL FITTINGS AND TUBING 1/2ID x 3/4OD. All fittings are black BitPowers 1/2x3/4. Quick Disconnect Fittings are VL4 series for max flow/least restriction. Tubing is clear Primochill.

90* ---1(Res)---1(Piping)---1(Rad) x3 53.85

45* ---2(CPU)---2(GPU)---1(Res/Pump)---1(Rad) x6 101.94

180(Straight)*---1(Piping) x1 13.99

Quick Dis-Connect 2 Male Threaded x2 27.98

Quick Dis-Connect 2 Female Compression x2 31.98

Tubing 1/2x3/4 PrimoChill Clear 7ft 17.50

Filter/Flow x1 19.99
TOTAL: 267.23 before shipping

Flow Order

Res/Pump--90*---90*---180*---Quick---Filter/Flow Indicator---Quick---90*---Rad---45*---45*---cpu---45*---45*---GPU---45*---45*---Pump/Res

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Everything looks good, go for it!

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Ordered. All parts excepts the CPU Water block will be delivered by friday.

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