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Old 08-31-06   #41 (permalink)
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Also, there's no such thing as the X1950XT, it'll only be XTX and CF, which will perform the same as the XTX.
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Huh really? Ok never knew that...
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Anyone have any news about the 7600GS AGP?
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For most games a 7600GT beats an x1800XL for performance, until the AA is turned up and it falls horribly short. How are we rating these...with AA or without AA? Should there be two lists, one for 0xAA performance and the other for 4xAA performance?
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For most games a 7600GT beats an x1800XL for performance, until the AA is turned up and it falls horribly short. How are we rating these...with AA or without AA? Should there be two lists, one for 0xAA performance and the other for 4xAA performance?
Interesting idea. I think raw GPU power woul be easier to manage (cause then the ATI's all win cause of HDR :P).

As for the 7600GT vs. the X1800XL, do you have any benchies?

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I counted a bunch of benchies off xbit/toms/anand and a few others. On about 55-60% of games the 7600GT was about 2-5% faster than the x1800XL until 4xAA. On about 40-45% of games the 7600GT was about 5-40% slower than the x1800XL. Somewhere around two thirds of the benches put the 7600GT faster, but none of them were the *image quality* modes or highest resolutions.

Ahh...the numbers don't lie...just their actual weight and importance!

Actually...that makes me think: someone should start up a games database for all 2004-and-on games. It should list what flavour of cards do well for a game; basically split into ATI/nVidia generations.

Example: (not true)
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Battlefield 2
Preferred Cardtype: 7 series or x1000 series.
Has Issues Cardtype: FX series.

Best for AA: ATI cards.
Best for performance: nVidia cards.

Note*: Performs best with 512MB onboard memory.
Note*: Does not utilize more than 256MB onboard memory.
Note*: Low framerates nomatter what you play it with. <--- Good one for Oblivion.


By pairing a resource like that with a graphics card ranking like this, it would be quite a bit easier picking good graphics cards for other people and ourselves. We all have a favourite game or two, right?
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I just thought about this it will take some time consuming work but I will help. You should make each card name a link to the manufacturer's site or maybe a seller's site. Just a thought. Great job btw must have taken a while
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I counted a bunch of benchies off xbit/toms/anand and a few others. On about 55-60% of games the 7600GT was about 2-5% faster than the x1800XL until 4xAA. On about 40-45% of games the 7600GT was about 5-40% slower than the x1800XL. Somewhere around two thirds of the benches put the 7600GT faster, but none of them were the *image quality* modes or highest resolutions.

Ahh...the numbers don't lie...just their actual weight and importance!

Actually...that makes me think: someone should start up a games database for all 2004-and-on games. It should list what flavour of cards do well for a game; basically split into ATI/nVidia generations.

Example: (not true)
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Battlefield 2
Preferred Cardtype: 7 series or x1000 series.
Has Issues Cardtype: FX series.

Best for AA: ATI cards.
Best for performance: nVidia cards.

Note*: Performs best with 512MB onboard memory.
Note*: Does not utilize more than 256MB onboard memory.
Note*: Low framerates nomatter what you play it with. <--- Good one for Oblivion.


By pairing a resource like that with a graphics card ranking like this, it would be quite a bit easier picking good graphics cards for other people and ourselves. We all have a favourite game or two, right?
Fantastic idea, I'd help you with it if you would like. It would be a nice complementary thread o this one.
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Hey guys. I really like the idea that J3r3my came up with a while ago. The graphics card rankings. Since he has been inactive for a while, I thought I may update the list. If anyone has a problem with me doing say so, and I shall stop.

By the way, this list is NOT of my invention, I don't want credit for what J3r3my put time into.

7950GX2
X1950XTX
X1950XT
X1900XTX
7900GTX
X1900XT
7900GT 512MB
7800GTX 512MB
X1900GT
X1800XT
7900GT
7800GTX
7900GS
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7800GS
X1800GTO
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X850XT/XTPE
X800XT/XTPE
6800Ultra/EE
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6800GS
X800XL
X850Pro
X800pro
X800GTO/GTO2
X1600XT
7600GS
X800
7300GT
6800
X800GT
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6800XT/LE
6600GT
7300GS
X700Pro
9800XT
9800Pro
9700Pro
9800
9800SE 256bit
S3 Chrome S27
X700
5950Ultra
9700
5900Ultra
5800Ultra
5900
5800
X1300Pro
6600
5900XT
X1300
X600XT
TI4800
TI4600
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TI4800SE
5700Ultra
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9800SE 128bit
X600
9600Pro
TI4400
9500
6600LE
X1300SE
5700
9600
6200
TI4200
5600
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9550
5500
X300
9550SE
9200Pro
9000Pro
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GeForce3 TI500
8500
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9250
GeForce4 MX460
5200
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GeForce3
GeForce4 MX 440
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GeForce2 GTS
GeForce4 MX 420
Radeon
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GeForce2 MX 400
GeForce256
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TNT2
Rage128 Pro
Voodoo3
TNT
Rage128
Riva128
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Voodoo Banshee
Voodoo2
Riva
Rage3D
VooDoo1

Please tell me of any new cards and their performace. I am waiting on the X1650 series and X1300XT for benchmarks. The X1950 benchies are already out.

EDIT: AiW editions will NOT be included.

Nrgx.
i do not agree with a few rankings. the x700pro is better than a 6600gt...it is 450/900 256mb gddr3 128-bit and 8 pipes...
and i saw a x800GT..... prolly jus a typo
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