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the only difference in 55NM is because Nvidia wants better yields 50% vs 40% look at 9800GTX vs 9800GTX+ not much difference plus as dragosmp said better AA performance

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From the tons of review I've read I'd go for the 4870 for a simple reason: AA performance.

The review @tweaktown is made roughly without AA, the others generally with AA, hence the difference. The 48x0 series offers free 4xAA, so better image quality at the same performance. Passing @55nm is not going to resolve this for nvidia, as they would have to redesign the gpu.

To wait for nv's 55nm... if the power consumption will drop, if the clocks would get better, if the performance would increase, if they'll also make free AA, there's an awful lot of ifs. By the time nv 55nm appears, ATI's 4870x2 will also appear, maybe they'll also make a new revision to the GPU so that it clocks higher and consumes less, but this is all just supposition.

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#1 EVGA's step-up program, so your $300 can be used to pay for a newer GPU in the future. Nvidia PhysX which improve folding a rediculous amount( my 8800GT was rendering at 60 iterations a second, after i installed Nvidia PhysX it does over 2600 iterations a second), also the 4000's are having problems and only 320 stream processors can be used for folding at the moment. Also they are ocming out with software to transcode video up to 7 times faster then CPUs can.

The p35 is a proven overclocker, and if you want to overclock your CPU then your guaranteed with the p35, the p45 is still new.

swiftshinobi

At this point in time, there is no reason to get a P35 board over P45. You're losing out on PCI-E 2.0 and better Crossfire capabilities, not to mention probably improved 45nm overclocking and ICH10. The prices are similar.

As for graphics cards, I would advise you to get the HD4870 unless the GTX260 drops even further, which is highly unlikely. I'm in the same boat as you. I'm tempted to just get the best performance/price card, the HD4850 though.

AndrewBEJ

When you use the Nvidia Physx driver on your GPU, your GPU performance will suffer, ive tested this. And it isnt like 1-2 FPS, but i lost 7fps or more of my GPU performance. Example, Crysis DX9, 16x10, noAA, noAF, all high settings , 175.16, average FPS is ~44, and with 177.41+Physx driver same settings, average FPS is ~37. And then another example 3DMark03, i got 45K with 177.41 and physx driver and 53k with 175.16.

darksideleader

hmmph... too bad you don't have evga card to setup your card :/
So what can the step up do? Buy a GTX 260 now and hope in less than 3 months they shrink it and step up to that? I guess that works.

So you rather have folding performance than gaming performance, i guess some people are just different

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Infinitegrim

there is only a few fps difference, bearly able to see in the actual game, also im not taking about my set up im saying that when the next GPU series come out, he bascially gets $300 off immediatly. I dont have an EVGA card because when i bought my 8800GT all other 512mb 8800GTS where $180-200 and the zotac amp was $154 after rebate, the EVGA cards didn't have any rebates. You guys are honestly rediculous, because i didn't jump on the bandwagon, you tare me apart for anything, how does my rig have anything to do with this thread?

coltsrock

Ok, well Im deciding to go X48, so no more P45ing and 4870 is really looking good guys

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As long as you are happy with your rig what does it matter?

However, if we followed some of the logic in here, we could do this...

If's for Nvidia:
If I get 55nm, I will get cooler, cheaper, faster and with nehalem I can finally SLI on a stable chipset. These If's are all hardware related.

If's for ATI:
If people want to fold with me (I can only currently use 320SP because they are using the core for the 3XXX series of cards) they will need a new core.
If people want to use some sort of GPU based physics acceleration, they will have to wait for Havok support which is coming (and used in far more games than PhysX). These If's are all software related.

Looking at the if's, I'd wager that it'll be easier to manipulate the software if's than the hardware ones.

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4870 FTW!

If the GTX 280 was $300-$350, then I say go Nvidia, otherwise getting a 4870 is a no brainer.

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