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Old 07-20-09   #61 (permalink)
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How is a single 8600GTS better than a single 7950, but in SLI it's vice versa?
Why is the GTX275 bette rin triSLI than the GTX280, but the 280 beats it in SLI?
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/compare,795.html?prod[2082]=on&prod[2092]=on
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Why is the HD 4850X2 in front of the GTX 285, GTX 275, and HD 4890?

Also, why are the 2GB variants rated higher? They only offer higher performance if you have super high res or lots of AA. Just use one variant of a card, otherwise you'll end up factoring all kinds of specifics in.

EDIT: And GTX 275 SLi/Tri SLi should be ahead of GTX 280 SLi/Tri SLi
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Why is the HD 4850X2 in front of the GTX 285, GTX 275, and HD 4890?

Also, why are the 2GB variants rated higher? They only offer higher performance if you have super high res or lots of AA. Just use one variant of a card, otherwise you'll end up factoring all kinds of specifics in.

EDIT: And GTX 275 SLi/Tri SLi should be ahead of GTX 280 SLi/Tri SLi
The 4850X2 1GB is around equal to the GTX 285 and does not beat the 4890 but the 4850X2 2Gb version does.

And for the GTX 275 and GTX 280 they around the same performance so its hard to judge whether which on is on top.

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The 4850X2 1GB is around equal to the GTX 285 and does not beat the 4890 but the 4850X2 2Gb version does.

And for the GTX 275 and GTX 280 they around the same performance so its hard to judge whether which on is on top.
Can you link me to some benchmarks? I kept looking everywhere for some benches where the HD4850X2 beat any of the cards but I couldn't find any.

The only reason the 2GB would beat the HD 4890 when the 1GB does not is, like I said before, from high res or lots of AA. In other benchmarks it doesn't make a difference.

So, what I'm saying is, what's the baseline for these rankings? Is it based on a test of a specific game with 2x AA 16x AF, or what?
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Link:
http://pcgamersera.com/2009/05/4850x2-vs-4890/

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First one doesn't even have benches, and the third one is in a different language, and it only shows synthetics, which I could care less about. The second one shows an HD4890 beating an HD 4870X2 at every resolution. Am I missing something?

Pretty sure the HD 4890 & GTX 275 should be ahead of at least the HD 4850X2
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got another one for ya:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...view/page6.asp

but w/e

Chart looks decent. If you got the time, something interesting to make would be a Multi-GPU + Single GPU chart. This way, we can see how up a single videocard can go and also how unworthwhile some multi-gpu setups might end up being.
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lol it looks to me like this list is messed up
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The 4850X2 2GB is a better card that the GTX 285 (apart from folding) The 1GB version is on par with a GTX 280.
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None of these justify your current card placement.

The first offers a clearly biased review with no actual testing.

The second shows the 4890 beating the 4870X2 which contradicts your current list (and is rather questionable in itself).

And the third shows only synthetic tests, like Conley mentioned, which don't really matter, and because it's written in Arabic (?) I can't tell if they took any measures to correct for this.
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