getbigtony

why would u recommend him that when the 5870 is going to be around $400 and performs a lot better?
just because you are the 'nvidia' editor?
use some common sense please

OP, what kind of games do you play?
do you feel the need to upgrade to a better card?

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hubwub

I am willing to part out with my 9600gt. This is the 9600gt that I own: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130328

Also, why the GTX 285 from BFG? Why not another maker? Why is it the best option?

I would definitely love the improvement. Both are good recommendations. Any brand that might be worth getting like which one has a better cooler than the other? Or perks?

Are we sure that the GT300 will be released at the end of November or December for that matter? Tentative date would be great.

It is a good option. But provide reasons.

Do you have any links for those cards?

That's interesting. Are there any other VP4 cards from Nvidia that are worth looking into other than that NVIDIA GeForce G210?

Interesting. So far, you have only mentioned Crossfire and SLI-ing. Are you saying for that resolution, I would be better off getting two cards for performance on that resolution than getting a single card?

If I do purchase a an ATI 5850/5870, would my power supply be good enough for it. Do I need to worry about under performing the cards with my PSU?

Investing for the future is a good idea. However, sometimes there are options using old technology that I could be better off with.

I'm glad to hear about input from one's actual hardware. That's good to know.

Interesting. Is it possible to know which 4850 you have in your HTPC? What's your fps when playing those games at that resolution with your 4850?

My response to this is that so what he is the NVIDIA editor. I am willing to listen to what his opinion was on the matter. Also I'm not a he.

For your second question, I play mostly FPS games. Mostly COD and Valve games. From time to time, I do play MMOs and RPGs. However, I would like to have the option to max out games.

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coffeejunky

Just to get some balance here

I would reccomend the HD 5870 for that budget, its the fastest single GPU card available, it supports DX11, it can only improve with driver updates, it scales great in crossfire, uses very little power at idle. Your current PSU would be perfect for HD5870 crossfire. The HD 5870 when paired with an i7 will get pretty close to maxing out all current games, just google for some reviews, and make an informed decision.

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Tsk tsk, don't get all hurt. I suggested the GTX 285 because it's a fabulous card, one that I've tested and seen perform.

So I take it I'm supposed to suggest ATi cards just to contradict the fact that I'm "the nVidia Editor"?

If you want to suggest the 5870, be my guest, I got nothing against ATi cards, I just threw it my $.02; which we're all entitled to.

So grow up, thanks.

Pretty much any maker of your choice would be fine. I'd go with eVGA, XFX, or BFG considering their warranties are to die for.

There's no set release date, there can only be speculation. It could come out at the end of this month, or it could come out mid-March 2010. No one knows.

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oliverw92

I would suggest the 5870. It beats the GTX 285 as proven in quite a few reviews, it's normally cheaper than the 285 and has the added advantage of DX11, which will make your purchase very future proof. I also beleive it draws less power than the 285, but i am not sure. Your PSU will be perfectly fine for both, however.

The cards DuckieHoe mentioned i beleive he said for 1080p video, not for gaming. Those cards will not play the games you play well at all.

Another reason for the 5870 is it scales incredibly well. If you don't know what this means, it means when you add a second card, it comes very close to doubling the performance. The old 4k series ATI cards did not scale as well, however the 5870 has shown between 60-80% scaling in alot of tests. Up to 3 of the new 5 series gives decent scaling, but nobody needs more than two really.

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candy_van

True, the GTX285 is a great card...but the 4890 is right on par for significantly less money.

In light of that OP, I'd either go for a 4890 ($200 range) or 5870 ($400 range) for a single card solution.

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IEATFISH

You PSU is plenty sufficient for 1 or 2 of the new cards. I bought an Asus 5850 for the 3 yr warranty. Visiontek has a lifetime warranty (had a Visiontek 4850, loved it) and XFX has a souble lifetime warranty. I've heard bad things about XFX but I've also heard some great things so for me, they are just average. Asus seems to be a good balance between a long warranty and solid customer service, from my point of view. I would have bought the Visiontek 5850 but I haven't seen them anywhere...

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hubwub

Thank you for your response. I'm glad to know of its capabilities. I'm rather amused at the fact that I can run it on Crossfire with my current power supply. So thank you for that input.



Thank you for your brand recommendations. That's good to know as far as the release of the GT 300. However, as you said it's all speculation till an actual press release is seen from NVIDIA.

I did not know that he actually specified that it was 1080p video. I misread his response. That' alright. Now, I know what he actually meant.

That's good to know about the scalability of these cards.


If you do recommend both of these cards, which models should I get?

What are the thoughts about the GTX 275 CO-OP FTW edition? Is it worth getting as it is within my price range?

Also, are there big differences between the video encoding between the 5870 and the GTX 285? Would anybody have any charts that would compare video encoding for the two cards or even more than just those two cards?

I have a question. If I ever want to get into folding which card should I get? Just want to how these cards beyond gaming.

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IEATFISH

For folding, the nVidia cards win hands-down at the moment. That would be the only real reason to go nVidia. ATI has better offerings at almost every price point. Stanford is going to have a new folding client that should run better on ATI cards but waiting for that is like waiting for the GT300 series.

Also, nVidia seems to have much better Linux drivers. ATI will work fine, but any intense 3D stuff and nVidia is better.

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ZealotKi11er

Get the 5850 and don't waist your money on 5870 because once both are overclocked 5870 is literally 1fps faster.

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