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Old 02-05-08   #1 (permalink)
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Default Raptor 80GB Dead? Need recovery assistance!

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Last night my Raptor, which is my main drive, died during a backup. Ironic that it would die while backing up, yes, but the files I needed most didn't make it onto the backup drive. It's only 7 months old, I don't know why it should die so soon. All my schoolwork is on this drive, as well as my photos, and I need them back ASAP.

Anyways, the bootsector and apparently the partition tables are jumbled, but most of my data appears intact...I think. I was sucessfully able to "read" the folders with Unerase but the computer has started crashing whenever the drive is accessed. I think the controller doesn't like the Raptor anymore, as the bus is having IRQL failures during device accesses.

I have 2 250gb drives, a 160, and the 80GB Raptor. All are SATA non-RAID (NVraid is a pain in the butt) so I've been using a sort of dynamic multi-drive manual backup protocol to prevent such happenings. It's been too long since I backed up though so now I'm in deep poop.

I have tried Spin-Rite 6.0 on the Raptor, no luck. It doesn't get past the bootsector. It works great on the other drives though. The Raptor also just makes the click/clack of a Floppy drive while Spin-Rite is running. I take it that means it's pretty dead. It still spins up pretty well when I power it up and down and it reads nicely (or at least reads quitely, but later the computer freezes up) when I use Stellar NTFS on it, so I don't believe it's physically obstructed inside.

SpinRite also reports, thru SMART, that the drives all like to hit 140*F+ or so, and warns that 131*F is the max safe temp. I wonder if that had anything to do with the early death?
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just a suggestion, you could try installing your OS ona different drive then run the raptor as a sort of slave drive and see if you can access the files that way.
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Been trying it like that, Windows sees the drive as being unformatted. It's also been dragging the OS down, I don't know why, but the computer acts boggy every time I hook the drive back up.

I see you have the same drive I do. Mine's really closer to a 74GB even though it's advertised at 80GB.
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sucks... bought it and put it into my new nforce mobo and turned on the computer and i smelt something burning and i opened the box and the whole cpu and socket was all completely melted, and they wont give me a refund.

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You let the raptor get how hot?

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You let the raptor get how hot?
About 140*F, according to SMART. I didn't know it was getting that hot at all, there's plenty of forced ventilation I think. I don't know how hot it was when it crashed the first time, as there doesnt' seem to be a Windows warning about hot hard drives.

All my drives are sitting at about 125*F right now at idle.

Both my Western Digital 250's got up to about 139*F while I was running Spinrite in SMARTmonitor mode (I told it to override it's 131* halt instructions) at which time I just powered the computer off.
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sucks... bought it and put it into my new nforce mobo and turned on the computer and i smelt something burning and i opened the box and the whole cpu and socket was all completely melted, and they wont give me a refund.

System: It's called a "Torsche"
CPU
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770
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XFX nForce 790i Ultra SLI
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Corsair TWINX 8192MB PC12800 DDR3 1600MHz
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Thermaltake Kandalf Blk F-Tower Case w/Liquid Cool
CPU cooling
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I have had much success using R-undelete. Have you tried it?
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I'm using a demo of R-Studio right now, I'll try the Undelete version.

EDIT: R-Undelete seems to be reading the drive without errors, and is indicating it's finding files. Hope it's actually working lol.
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sucks... bought it and put it into my new nforce mobo and turned on the computer and i smelt something burning and i opened the box and the whole cpu and socket was all completely melted, and they wont give me a refund.

System: It's called a "Torsche"
CPU
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Motherboard
XFX nForce 790i Ultra SLI
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Corsair TWINX 8192MB PC12800 DDR3 1600MHz
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Creative X-Fi
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Ultra X3 1000w
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Thermaltake Kandalf Blk F-Tower Case w/Liquid Cool
CPU cooling
ThermalTake Liquid Cooling, 360mm radiator
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Sweet! R-undelete is magic.

If you didn't purchase a copy you might not be able to fully recover what it finds until you purhcase.

Good luck! Let us know about the results.
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I'm using a demo of R-Studio right now, I'll try the Undelete version.

EDIT: R-Undelete seems to be reading the drive without errors, and is indicating it's finding files. Hope it's actually working lol.

great to hear, i'm sure we all know how crappy it is to lose a drive with valuable info on it.
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Sweet! R-undelete is magic.

If you didn't purchase a copy you might not be able to fully recover what it finds until you purhcase.

Good luck! Let us know about the results.
If it finds what I'm looking for I'm more than willing to pay for a full recovery. Spinrite was supposed to the pretty good, I'm surprised it didn't pan out this time.

EDIT: Looking good so far, at 27% and still going. By the graph it's found a lot of stuff.
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Quote:
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sucks... bought it and put it into my new nforce mobo and turned on the computer and i smelt something burning and i opened the box and the whole cpu and socket was all completely melted, and they wont give me a refund.

System: It's called a "Torsche"
CPU
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770
Motherboard
XFX nForce 790i Ultra SLI
Memory
Corsair TWINX 8192MB PC12800 DDR3 1600MHz
Graphics Card
Nvidia GeForce 9800GTX+
Hard Drive
10 Terabytes (WD-GREEN)
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi
Power Supply
Ultra X3 1000w
Case
Thermaltake Kandalf Blk F-Tower Case w/Liquid Cool
CPU cooling
ThermalTake Liquid Cooling, 360mm radiator
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise
Monitor
17" Dell LCD

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