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Old 12-20-07   #31 (permalink)
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I've been reading that most Phenom owners have hit a wall at 230mhz. Though Hardocp seems to have a much lower wall. Still would have been nice for them to try going higher with the FSB, but how much of a difference would it really make?
By the time your talking x15 multiplier a lot. 230 x 15 is already 3.45GHz, and one guy has his phenom running at 250 fsb which with a x15 multi would be 3.75Ghz, so as you can see as the multiplier increases the clocks really start to stack up.
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What the hell is wrong with you Intel Fanboys, why is it that every single time you guys see a post about anything that has to do with AMD processors you guys feel like you HAVE to come in and start shooting off your stupid "AMD Suckz lolz" and "AMD is pathetic, Intel is so much better" lines. I really don't see what motivates you people, every time you make a dumb post like that it makes you look a little bit stupider than you already look. And I just have one thing to say to you guys.

NO ONE ASKED YOU

Honestly, I think its damned Impressive for a company that owns less than 20% of the market share to be giving a company with 10x the R&D budget a run for its money clock-for-clock, and giving us people still on AM2 a cheaper upgrade path to quads.

You guys just need to get a life and go outside and make a snowman or something... find a girlfriend... order some ProActive... do SOMETHING, because I'm getting really sick of having to scroll through all your posts when im looking for some useful information on the Phenoms.

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Quite a stupid arguement really. I mean all because a company doesn't have as much money as another for R&D, is not gonna make me wanna buy it. I'm not gonna buy a cpu with my hard earned dollars because I feel sympathy for a company because they have less money; I'm buying what is the very best. If all people thought like you and factored in their "feelings" when buying performance parts, competition would be gone.
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Quite a stupid arguement really. I mean all because a company doesn't have as much money as another for R&D, is not gonna make me wanna buy it. I'm not gonna buy a cpu with my hard earned dollars because I feel sympathy for a company because they have less money; I'm buying what is the very best. If all people thought like you and factored in their "feelings" when buying performance parts, competition would be gone.
No ****.... you seem the be missing the entire
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part.... If I had the money for a new motherboard AND a quad, of course I would get a C2Q, that being said, I ALSO would buy a C2Q if AMD's quads didn't perform almost DEAD ON with the quads from Intel, (A company with 10x the R&D budget) which they do.

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A whole lot of pwning in this here thread.
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Why can't we be friends? Lets get AMD and Intel together so they can make up.

BTW I am sooo buying one of these when they come out .
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By the time your talking x15 multiplier a lot. 230 x 15 is already 3.45GHz, and one guy has his phenom running at 250 fsb which with a x15 multi would be 3.75Ghz, so as you can see as the multiplier increases the clocks really start to stack up.
Just because a CPU has a certain multiplier and is capable of a certain HT (or FSB) doesn't mean they are stable together. My 3800 has a 10x multi and my Biostar is capable of a 350 HT speed, doesn't mean I can run the CPU at 3500 mhz.
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can we settle on the reveiw just being bad.. the phenom can be pushed harder, and they probably were afraid of 45*C....

the review gives no number, stats, information about the proc except 3.0ghz....
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That was pathetic that from 2.3 they could only get to 3.0 on water. Truely pathetic. Also why did they not benchmark it?
UUUMMMMMM EXCUSE ME... quite a few of the B3 Q6600's weren't a whole lot better bud.

The G0 Q6600's are a whole different story but what is to say that the next revision of the Phenom won't be able to hit 3.2 on air and 3.5 on water just like my Q6600 G0? Heck, I am afraid to go past 3.6 anyways for fear of popping the vregs around the socket.

If AMD gets Phenoms that will hit over 3ghz reliably, and prices on the 790fx boards drop, I'd surely dump this Q6600 and go with a 3870 CF setup just for fun. Lets cut the fanboyism folks, most people on this forum would kill to have ANY quad core.
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UUUMMMMMM EXCUSE ME... quite a few of the B3 Q6600's weren't a whole lot better bud.

The G0 Q6600's are a whole different story but what is to say that the next revision of the Phenom won't be able to hit 3.2 on air and 3.5 on water just like my Q6600 G0? Heck, I am afraid to go past 3.6 anyways for fear of popping the vregs around the socket.

If AMD gets Phenoms that will hit over 3ghz reliably, and prices on the 790fx boards drop, I'd surely dump this Q6600 and go with a 3870 CF setup just for fun. Lets cut the fanboyism folks, most people on this forum would kill to have ANY quad core.
lol you're right man, I would gladly accept ANYTHING with 4 cores even if it was an apple (lol, apple cores.. I made a pun )
which is why im getting a phenom ASAP, hopefully a 2.2ghz one with the errata fixed and a new stepping, then, in 2 or 3 months, I'll get a 790fx or whatevers best at the time, and then finally I'll get a 3870X2 and ill run tri-crossfire, hells yeah
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What the hell is wrong with you Intel Fanboys, why is it that every single time you guys see a post about anything that has to do with AMD processors you guys feel like you HAVE to come in and start shooting off your stupid "AMD Suckz lolz" and "AMD is pathetic, Intel is so much better" lines. I really don't see what motivates you people, every time you make a dumb post like that it makes you look a little bit stupider than you already look. And I just have one thing to say to you guys.

NO ONE ASKED YOU

Honestly, I think its damned Impressive for a company that owns less than 20% of the market share to be giving a company with 10x the R&D budget a run for its money clock-for-clock, and giving us people still on AM2 a cheaper upgrade path to quads.

You guys just need to get a life and go outside and make a snowman or something... find a girlfriend... order some ProActive... do SOMETHING, because I'm getting really sick of having to scroll through all your posts when im looking for some useful information on the Phenoms.

/EndRant

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Dude there will always be haters out there and here in the threads. There isn't much you can do about it. I too had a lot of high hopes for AMD when I had my Athlon x2 4200+. I just couldn't wait for Phenom to pown all the Intel fan boys. But that’s not the way it turned out and I ended up selling my AM2 board and CPU not to long ago.

If you just try and stay on top of the best performing parts then you will have nothing to loose, AMD's Athlons were the best dual cores for a long time and now Intel has the best and that’s why I have an Intel CPU. Not because I hate AMD or that I like Intel, I just wanted the fastest and best overclocking dual cores out. Whether my CPU has Intel plaster on the top of it or its says AMD its not going to matter as long as it's fast, OCs well, and can handle all the hard core gaming that I will be doing.

The brand isn’t going to matter once you get a good game of _____ (Crysis for me) going only the performance. Currently AMD doesn’t have the best performance and they don’t seem to be Ocing very will But there Quad cores are really cheap and offer a lot of performance for the price.
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