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Old 01-16-08   #21 (permalink)
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I like, finally a nice GUI.
BIOS of my old 486 system (bought in 1995) has ncurses like GUI w/ mouse support. So that's not a new thing :P
The idea is EFI, some middle layers between OS and Hardware an other things.
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As long as it can overclock and isn't going to add more then $10 to motherboards, I don't really care.
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As long as it can overclock and isn't going to add more then $10 to motherboards, I don't really care.
You wouldn't pay over $10 for guaranteed driver support and compatibility plus reduce load times? Not to mention driver releases in half the time. The potential of EFI is pretty good.
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Would that benefit Linux users in any way?
Yeah. Hopefully EFI might actually make Linux bootable on a dual hard disk configuration. That'd be sweet.
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EFI is what they use in macs, and you don't see macs having problems with it do you?

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EFI does look fairly cool. All I care about is pricing. I would love to have a motherboard with it as life would be easier. However I am hoping its not going to become one of those horribly expensive new tech kind of things.
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EFI does look fairly cool. All I care about is pricing. I would love to have a motherboard with it as life would be easier. However I am hoping its not going to become one of those horribly expensive new tech kind of things.
thing is, its really not that new it came out in 2000, motherboards for pc's have just not been supporting it, while macs have had it for a very long time


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  • Linux systems have been able to use EFI at boot time since early 2000, using the elilo EFI boot loader. elilo is the only means to boot Linux on IA-64 platforms; it can also be used on IA-32 platforms. As of July 2007, elilo support for x86-64 mode is available through a beta release.
  • HP-UX has used EFI as its boot mechanism on IA-64 systems since 2002. OpenVMS has used it on production releases since January 2005.
[edit] Microsoft Windows

The Itanium versions of Windows 2000 (Advanced Server Limited Edition and Datacenter Server Limited Edition) supported EFI 1.1 in 2002.
Windows Server 2003 for IA64, Windows XP 64-bit Edition, and Windows 2000 Advanced Server Limited Edition, all of which are for the Intel Itanium family of processors, support EFI, a requirement of the platform through the DIG64 specification.[13]
Microsoft plans to introduce UEFI support for 64-bit x64 with Windows Server 2008. UEFI support for x64 versions of Windows Vista are planned to be included in a service pack,[14] possibly Vista Service Pack 1.[15] Microsoft claims that the lack of official support for EFI booting on 32-bit CPUs is due to lack of support from PC manufacturers and vendors. Microsoft’s migration to x64 operating systems is not supportable by EFI 1.10, since the x86-64/EM64T processor extensions required by x64 operating systems were not a supported processor binding. Support for x86-64/EM64T was added in UEFI 2.0.
Microsoft has released a video with Andrew Ritz and Jamie Schwarz explaining Pre-OS support involving UEFI on Vista and Longhorn.[16]

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Oh I didnt know that it had been out since 2000...old news when it comes to Macs then lol.
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i have the Neo2, do u htink MSI has a step up lol
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Also old news to the Super Computing community since SGI has been using an efi loader since they helped HP and Intel develop it. I use it daily when working on the sgi Altix platform. At first it kind of sucks because you have to figure out a new way to interact with the system. Once it is "mainstreamed" I expect it to get more intuitive. Very handy to trouble shoot problems or fix HD's.

For example; Once I power on the system and get the efi prompt I can run limited unix/linux/dos commands. I can mount drives, search drives, copy and replace files, install software updates (from local files or network), reconfigure the kernel, reorganize boot priorities and even ping systems on the network.

EDIT: Oh and BTW, this functionality has been on sgi (and other) systems since the late 80's (or even earlier). It was just not called efi.
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