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binormalkilla · 04-01-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundzilla

The more I read the more disturbing this "debate" seems to get.

Does anyone here understand how a licensing agreement works? Creative sells different versions of these cards with different features. The hardware may be the same across all of them, but depending on which version you buy, they turn on or off certain features. Some of those features, like DD and DTS decoding, or DD Live, etc. require Creative to pay a licensing fee to other companies for every card they sell with that feature enabled.

If some guy on the Internet starts giving (or selling) everyone the ability to do whatever they want on any of their cards, he is stealing from Creative, and from their licensing partners. He isn't a hero, he's a thief. He will be lucky if Creative doesn't sue him now that he's essentially unlocked the keys to their IP and made it available for everyone. Their legal team could hold him responsible for any resulting millions in losses because of the reaction.

All this feigned "outrage" is pointless.

There are some here who understand that, but we have since moved on to another topic because this is old news (albeit blown out of proportion.)

Brutuz · 04-01-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundzilla

The more I read the more disturbing this "debate" seems to get.

Does anyone here understand how a licensing agreement works? Creative sells different versions of these cards with different features. The hardware may be the same across all of them, but depending on which version you buy, they turn on or off certain features. Some of those features, like DD and DTS decoding, or DD Live, etc. require Creative to pay a licensing fee to other companies for every card they sell with that feature enabled.

If some guy on the Internet starts giving (or selling) everyone the ability to do whatever they want on any of their cards, he is stealing from Creative, and from their licensing partners. He isn't a hero, he's a thief. He will be lucky if Creative doesn't sue him now that he's essentially unlocked the keys to their IP and made it available for everyone. Their legal team could hold him responsible for any resulting millions in losses because of the reaction.

All this feigned "outrage" is pointless.

But, your forgetting, Creative locked certain features under Vista, that were in XP, so I could of brought a $600 Sound Card, for it to have the functionality of a $200 one, for example.

rx7speed · 04-01-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundzilla

The more I read the more disturbing this "debate" seems to get.

Does anyone here understand how a licensing agreement works? Creative sells different versions of these cards with different features. The hardware may be the same across all of them, but depending on which version you buy, they turn on or off certain features. Some of those features, like DD and DTS decoding, or DD Live, etc. require Creative to pay a licensing fee to other companies for every card they sell with that feature enabled.

If some guy on the Internet starts giving (or selling) everyone the ability to do whatever they want on any of their cards, he is stealing from Creative, and from their licensing partners. He isn't a hero, he's a thief. He will be lucky if Creative doesn't sue him now that he's essentially unlocked the keys to their IP and made it available for everyone. Their legal team could hold him responsible for any resulting millions in losses because of the reaction.

All this feigned "outrage" is pointless.

only problem with that is if you own a card that does support those features and it did have them when you update the drivers those features are now gone. at least in XP that has happened with my platinum. I know that I am not alone in experiencing that also.

that and from what it seems like having windows vista means that some of these features get disabled from the start with their drivers

Cool Matty · 04-01-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundzilla

The more I read the more disturbing this "debate" seems to get.

Does anyone here understand how a licensing agreement works? Creative sells different versions of these cards with different features. The hardware may be the same across all of them, but depending on which version you buy, they turn on or off certain features. Some of those features, like DD and DTS decoding, or DD Live, etc. require Creative to pay a licensing fee to other companies for every card they sell with that feature enabled.

If some guy on the Internet starts giving (or selling) everyone the ability to do whatever they want on any of their cards, he is stealing from Creative, and from their licensing partners. He isn't a hero, he's a thief. He will be lucky if Creative doesn't sue him now that he's essentially unlocked the keys to their IP and made it available for everyone. Their legal team could hold him responsible for any resulting millions in losses because of the reaction.

All this feigned "outrage" is pointless.

That isn't the issue at all. Your feigned "insight" is wrong.

We were promised features from Creative both on the site and the box. Then we were subsequently lied to by Creative that said features couldn't be done on Vista.

We already PAID any such licenses for the cards we own. It works in XP, after all! They simply didn't bother to make a decent driver for Vista, and lied about it on top of that. They even went as far as to blame Microsoft for what was entirely their own greed.

So, yeah, you're wrong.

R3ap3R · 04-01-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny99

I cant Believe this thread is still going on ! 100 pages +

This thread is still active?

- Any word from Creative yet

R3ap3R · 04-01-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by highwhey

yeah me too, if it contained free passes to bangbros i'd understand

ROFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordikon

. I actually thought about keeping it short, but that wouldn't have been fun enough. You could always sig the first couple lines

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Honestly, it'd be sweet if just about everyone that supported this cause had some kind of anti-creative thing in their signiture, so that this event isn't forgotten so easily in the coming weeks/months/....

EDIT: 500th post! No better thread to have it in.

500th post? No... it is already well over 1000....

EDIT: Nm... you mean your 500th post, lol

lordikon · 04-01-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3ap3R

This thread is still active?

- Any word from Creative yet

The word is that their a bunch of lying ***holes.

h3xw1z4rd · 04-01-08

woah! thread still going >.< epic! lol

jinja_ninja · 04-01-08

I'm sure the "Post a picture of yourself" thread is bigger than this.

Therefore its not THAT epic.

Maybe based on simultaneous users viewing, yes, but not replies.

joemaniaci · 04-01-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundzilla

The more I read the more disturbing this "debate" seems to get.

Does anyone here understand how a licensing agreement works? Creative sells different versions of these cards with different features. The hardware may be the same across all of them, but depending on which version you buy, they turn on or off certain features. Some of those features, like DD and DTS decoding, or DD Live, etc. require Creative to pay a licensing fee to other companies for every card they sell with that feature enabled.

If some guy on the Internet starts giving (or selling) everyone the ability to do whatever they want on any of their cards, he is stealing from Creative, and from their licensing partners. He isn't a hero, he's a thief. He will be lucky if Creative doesn't sue him now that he's essentially unlocked the keys to their IP and made it available for everyone. Their legal team could hold him responsible for any resulting millions in losses because of the reaction.

All this feigned "outrage" is pointless.

Dude, you need to start looking for another job because its not looking good for creative.

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