[OCN] Creative's fall from glory - Page 109 - Overclock.net

R3ap3R · 04-01-08

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Originally Posted by prosser13

CustomPC had an interview with him, it's on their site.

This PC is too slow to get load yet another tab though

The details of Dan K's thoughts were posted here

l V l · 04-01-08

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Originally Posted by arekieh

Reaper,
In size 7 font on the first page, tell all the guests to join,
Im gonna guess theyre not reading all 110 pages,
Only the first couple

As much as I hate to support this thread... That is a good idea...

*prosser13* · 04-01-08

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Originally Posted by R3ap3R

The details of Dan K's thoughts were posted here

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/60234...crackdown.html

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‘I'm NOT a cracker [or] a hacker,’ Kawakami told Custom PC

Joe531 · 04-01-08

I suppose it was perfect timing that I only had my X-Fi for just a couple weeks now. Brought it back, refund, done. No need to smash it up or nothin like that. lol

Anyways, back to tin can onboard sound I guess until I get around to finding a new sound card.

sublime0 · 04-01-08

I didnt understand what all this was about... I fell bad for daniel_k.. greedy greedy Creative. Im not buying another Creative card again. Im actualy thinking of using onboard.

ljason8eg · 04-01-08

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Originally Posted by catmmm

people are still talking about this?

lol

Yeah...i personally want to hear what creative has to say about this, since this is not just going to blow over and be forgotten about soon

R3ap3R · 04-01-08

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Originally Posted by prosser13

Then R3ap3R can put it in his first post and get loads of rep from guests who sign up!

Actually, every rep sans one is signed by the giver, and they are all from existing members... the new people can't even give rep right away, I don't think.

EDIT: we got bumped here... I like the preview window deal.. that's cool.

The Hundred Gunner · 04-01-08

Wow, this thread is actually 112 pages long, huh? I have the viewing mode set to 20 posts per page, so mine said 56 lol

Kasaris · 04-01-08

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Originally Posted by Soundzilla

The more I read the more disturbing this "debate" seems to get.

Does anyone here understand how a licensing agreement works? Creative sells different versions of these cards with different features. The hardware may be the same across all of them, but depending on which version you buy, they turn on or off certain features. Some of those features, like DD and DTS decoding, or DD Live, etc. require Creative to pay a licensing fee to other companies for every card they sell with that feature enabled.

If some guy on the Internet starts giving (or selling) everyone the ability to do whatever they want on any of their cards, he is stealing from Creative, and from their licensing partners. He isn't a hero, he's a thief. He will be lucky if Creative doesn't sue him now that he's essentially unlocked the keys to their IP and made it available for everyone. Their legal team could hold him responsible for any resulting millions in losses because of the reaction.

All this feigned "outrage" is pointless.

The main issue is that certain features which were listed for the products in question along with a with a Vista Certified logo are functional and available in Windows XP, however no longer function if you were to upgrade your OS to Vista.

This not because of a limitation of the hardware or vista, but because Creative deliberatly disabled those features you paid for at the driver level under vista to force you to have to pay again to buy a new product to get those features that your existing product was and is capable of doing.

Its a matter of people being pissed of not getting what they paid for and being lied to about a products features and capabilites.

R3ap3R · 04-01-08

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Originally Posted by Kasaris

The main issue is that certain features which were listed for the products in question along with a with a Vista Certified logo are functional and available in Windows XP, however no longer function if you were to upgrade your OS to Vista.

This not because of a limitation of the hardware or vista, but because Creative deliberatly disabled those features you paid for at the driver level under vista to force you to have to pay again to buy a new product to get those features that your existing product was and is capable of doing.

Its a matter of people being pissed of not getting what they paid for and being lied to about a products features and capabilites.

What is worse is that Dan K alleges that Creative set it up so that it on purposely turns off features whenever it sees Vista as the OS.... one post @ Creative showed that you could trick the install into believing it was on XP, and all the functions were available again, and worked in a Vista environment.

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04-01-08	#1084 (permalink)
Joe531 New to Overclock.net Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1 Rep: 0 Unique Rep: 0 Trader Rating: 0	I suppose it was perfect timing that I only had my X-Fi for just a couple weeks now. Brought it back, refund, done. No need to smash it up or nothin like that. lol Anyways, back to tin can onboard sound I guess until I get around to finding a new sound card.

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sublime0 nVidia Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,243 Rep: 228 Unique Rep: 157 Hardware Reviews: 4 Trader Rating: 7	I didnt understand what all this was about... I fell bad for daniel_k.. greedy greedy Creative. Im not buying another Creative card again. Im actualy thinking of using onboard.

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