dralb

Does creative sell to OEM's (Dell, HP, etc.) I am curious as to how much of their business id enthusiast. I assume more than other pieces of hardware, just never thought of it before.

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styckx

I probably will. I used to be into the overclocking scene. My last PC I unlocked the multipliers by dropping a u-shaped phone cord wire into my CPU socket.

31 now and just to old and entirely to lazy to do that stuff anymore

MNiceGuy

I had a Dell Dimension 8400 that came with a Creative card installed.

im_not_an_artard

This is too funny, I had never tried my Audigy in Vista, stayed with XP till i had to sell my comp, looks like a lotta problems

also i know for a fact that their zen micro performs horribly with vista

my friend has twice had errors that caused him to have me come over and fix his mp3 player, took about 1hr each time, creative really messed up there, plus hes on his 3rd zen micro

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Actually, the point is that they DON'T make superior products, and people at this point have had enough of it. From all the creative products I've owned, I conclude that creative products are merely mediocre. Support, though, is absolutely abysmal, terrible beyond anything else.

Did it say on the 680i boxes "Future CPUs will be supported?" These creative cards say, "vista compatible," when they are not.

Yeah, it reminds me of That 70's Show episode where Kelso says, "I was gonna give you this $5, but *rip, rip*. Clever, huh?"

Good point, but no need to be a goddamn ass about it. I mean seriously, you go off on me telling me I'm "mean to people" for using satire, yet you're out and about making personal attacks.

I've never met anyone in real life who didn't have problems with a creative mp3 player. I've gone through 2, my cousin has gone through 2, and all of my friends who have owned one have gone through at least 1.

So:

1. Their mp3 players suck, and once people realize that, no one will buy them

2. I doubt they can do well enough in the mp3 market alone (especially considering #1)

See? Proof:

(And there are a lot more members than he and I who have reported problems with creative mp3 players. Not all that many people own creative mp3 players, so all these reports of bad products make up a good percentage of the population, unlike complaints against say iPods or Zunes who have a much greater population, so you would expect to hear some about them anyway).

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styckx

Done. New accounts would be easy though.

styckx

So anyway, I'm throughly enjoying this demise of Creative, I knew something was up when my SB Live 24Bit(lol) USB wouldn't work on Vista. No CMSS, No working line in. It was a fantastic card to play music in bland left and right channels.

Old hardware is supposed to be easier to adopt as newer OS come out. Knock MS all you want but XP made HUGE strides in native hardware support as did Vista. Creative was the only hardware I've ever used with Vista that was just an utter useless failure to even try to get working correctly.

zacbrain

thats just you. lol. its not like OH MY GOD The hundred gunner's doesnt like it. D:

/apple has a stranglehold on the martket and i think its bad for it. its like killing what mp3's need. also there are bunches of other mp3 players that came out with better features and etc. just saying the zen had a good osund to it. so did the zune.


even then its like... ok.. still i like cowon. zune and creative. not a fan of apples. but thats cause i like a lot of other features. i sold my zune cause i wanted a cowon. and i still do. i mean touch screen. sd card compatible(32gigs) flac and it actually supports other types of vid formats. also can use linux and java support and etc. its a wonderful mp3 audio life is 53Hours video life is 10


all for 120$ for 4 gigs. also touchscreen. but yeah i mean common who listens to anyone on here.

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It will stay up the top aslong as its relevant mate, no need for a sticky imo.

Anyway, what exactly happened here (didnt read the whole of this mega thread ) From what i gather some guy was making drivers to give xp features in vista because creative wouldnt. And creative made him stop for some reason regarding him 'stealing' their tech? is that the gist? fill me in pls

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dralb

Basically. They sent him a letter as he was offering drivers support for Vista and Creative was not. Also, thet Creative was doing this intentionally (not supporting products) with the assumption that they want you to buy new products instead of offering a driver update for existing ones. This spawned a whole movement of people bashing Creative and making it widely known that they appreciated the drivers and do not appreciate the tactics Creative is using to boost sales. . It has been a long time coming as Creative was not supporting their products.

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