Murlocke

Guys lets not share his phone number. Hes probably just doing his job and was told to post that.

If you put his phone number in your post please remove it (Theres a few in here). Its harassment and shouldnt be tolerated and is a good way to get this thread locked...

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R3ap3R

This is an epic topic regardless of Newegg or not

And some sites are not selling Creative right now, with statements that they support the boycott.

AKAeric

So it has been 2 1/2 days since the initial post that set this off. That post has been seen over 190,000 times and that thread has over 1,400 replies. That is over 53 views per minute since Friday.

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Melcar

Holy crap man. The **** does roll down it seems. Most of this is amusing at the least.

All my sound/music related crap is either from Creative or Logitech. Creative cards are nowhere near the best at what they do, but they're good pieces of hardware. Their drivers do suck, however, but just like anything in the computing world, it can be fixed.

As far as I know, there is no smoking gun document out there that specifically accuses Creative of intentionally crippling their drivers. Not saying it can't happen... hell, companies do that sort of thing all the time. However, it can well be that their software engineers are just not good. Whatever the cause, no one has come out with any real proof of nearly 80% of the allegations being thrown about. So what if their cards were advertised as "Vista compatible"? Have you guys forgotten all the junk that also was "Vista compatible" and amounted to nothing more than a shiny paper weight? I did not see this level of outrage towards Intel, for example, or even towards MS for that matter. We all know that Vista "broke" many things.

All I see here is some guys getting pissed off at Creative, getting a few e-messages out, and everyone screaming for Creative's head on a platter. It's like somebody threw a snow ball at a cliff and caused an avalanche. What Daniel_K was doing was awesome, don't get me wrong. It was no different from, say, modded graphics drivers. The dude got careless (or greedy) and got burned, end of story. Creative is well within it's rights to do what it's doing. It sucks, but that's how it is. They don't want an unauthorized third party to mess with their software, fine, I see no problem with that. They sent a "nice" formal notice to Daniel_K for him to stop, and honestly, the guy got lucky that they were not *******s about it.

So, break your cards and speakers if you want; that manner of symbolism never amounted to anything anyways. All these tantrums will probably do squat to Creative... Creative was in hot water way before all this, and if they go down, it will be because of their recent financial (and legal) problems, and not this. It's just a lucky shot.

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MNiceGuy

I agree with you somewhat. I never really heard much Creative bashing until this came up but I think that it could be because I've used integrated audio and a cheap Altec Lansing speaker setup for the last five years.

When a company can't seem to polish up drivers and then a forum user comes along and fixes things, it REALLY puts egg on the face of said company. Maybe they don't deserve the downright crucifixion they are getting but something is definitely shady here.

R3ap3R

Edited, but it wasn't the guy who posted it... it was the guy who signed the letter in the OP. Also, it is publically available under contact us > investor relations.

HrnyGoat

The X-Fi in itself is a very good chipset, but Creative decided to cut corners to save costs, and also force people to buy more of their hardware. For example:

- Cards use very low quality op-amps that significantly reduce sound quality
- Capacitors are often of insufficient rating, and are generally of poor quality
- Poor front panel implementation, Creative wants to buy their front panel unit
- Front panel unit has even worse op-amps than than the card itself
- Not able to use s/pdif without buying a breakout connector, lose mic input
- Drivers

Auzentech has done a very good job with their implementation of the hardware and drivers, and the Prelude will likely be my next card. I don't really care that much that some money will go Creative, I just want the best gaming card I can get.

On top of that, their MP3 players are pretty lousy, breaking often and being much larger (and uglier) than their iPod competition. The worst thing though is how they rebranded an SB Live! card as the X-Fi Xtreme Audio, when it is in no way or shape an X-Fi card.


Man, look at all those linkbacks...

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I agree. I lol at the whimsy of forum trolls. That is why I think it is stupid to destroy a card. It is done for attention more than anything else. All the people selling and breaking their cards are sheep. I work in a motorcycle chop and I am bombarded with forum junkies that come in an honestly think because they saw it online, then it is true. If their bike has been running fine for years and years, but all of a sudden they see that that model is probe to a handling issue or vibration at a certain RPM, then theirs is effected too. Not many people think for themselves anymore. It seems to be more important to agree and belong, lol.

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I wonder why there are no mods present? What I would pay to see the look on their faces in the morning

MNiceGuy

very true

lol. Roll into the office, a little groggy with a case of the Mondays...already thinking about the next weekend. Logs into moderator account and OH MY.......!?!?!?