[OCN] Creative's fall from glory - Page 58 - Overclock.net

d31337 · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by Kluit

Unmodded the mentioned cards aren't slightly better, but there's a pretty big gap between them. Especially if you have a sound system behind it which can do something with it. I've tested many cards, and on a good system, the creative cards are quite simply far behind.

Well from testing some myself and MANY, MANY reviews out there you are a first to say that the Xonar is better than Creative. He11, the Xonar cannot even do EAX 3-5, they have to emulate it which causes fps loss in games. And as for Auzentech, it IS an X-FI chip so how can you make that comparison. Not to mention both are 200+ plus dollars and I can pick up the X-Fi for 80.

Nice way to put yourself out there and say the opposite of nearly every reviewer and tester on the market

Soundzilla · 03-31-08

Microsoft rips out direct hardware driver support in Vista.

Some guy on the Internet uses Creative's IP to work around it and in the process distributes Creative's IP.

Creative warns user that the IP is theirs.

Outrage ensues.

What am I missing here? From what I can tell, someone distributed IP without the right to do so. It doesn't matter how honorable his intent was. I don't get it. What's to be outrage about?

Dueling Banjo's · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by wolf_08

Well if Creative goes then. AMD is next. Aww crap now it looks like this is the end of computer era.

now u know THAT will get so many fanboy rants. waa wwaaaaa wwaaaaaa AMD is the best, just not right now, waa waaa.

edeekeos · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by d31337

Well from testing some myself and MANY, MANY reviews out there you are a first to say that the Xonar is better than Creative. He11, the Xonar cannot even do EAX 3-5, they have to emulate it which causes fps loss in games. And as for Auzentech, it IS an X-FI chip so how can you make that comparison. Not to mention both are 200+ plus dollars and I can pick up the X-Fi for 80.

Nice way to put yourself out there and say the opposite of nearly every reviewer and tester on the market

QFT

Pheatton · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by NuclearCrap

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativ...ology#Products

LOL.

Does that mean that they intentionally made the drivers crap in order to get people to buy newer cards with 'real" Vista drivers?? If so thats some shady stuff

d31337 · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by Soundzilla

Microsoft rips out direct hardware driver support in Vista.

Some guy on the Internet uses Creative's IP to work around it and in the process distributes Creative's IP.

Creative warns user that the IP is theirs.

Outrage ensues.

What am I missing here? From what I can tell, someone distributed IP without the right to do so. It doesn't matter how honorable his intent was. I don't get it. What's to be outrage about?

You nailed it right on the head.

Its a lot of people who dont know how to update their drivers that want their 15 min of fame. I find it funny that these "problems" didnt arise until this guy, who probably breached the EULA by using the source code that hasnt been released, raised a stink and charged people for altering Creatives own drivers.

Everyone these days is looking for someone to point the blame. The problem with pointing out someone is that you have 3 fingers pointing back at yourself

Once again, if people are unhappy with say VoodooPC support, and I start building computers in my basement and slap a VoodooPC sticker on it because "I was unhappy with my support" I think Voodoo is going to be a little more than ticked, and I have no right to do so, and no one has no right to support me and anyone who does is an idiot.

wolf_08 · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by thydevil

I was using the drivers from the CD...

Mmmm..Do you downloaded the programs from the creative site?

binormalkilla · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by d31337

Alright. Well, you are somewhat right. The Xonar is SLIGHTLY better with music while crappy with games and the Auzentech is SLIGHTLY better all the way around.

Ill take the XFi Gamer for 80 bucks over those two at 200+ any day. But I guess some dont like to save money on the same stuff....

$200+? Try $170 at newegg......and I've seen it for lower. It's not the 'same stuff' either, as it has MUCH higher quality PCB components, not to mention separate optical and jacks.......I've owned both cards and I will pay the extra $80 for the Prelude any day of the week.

wolf_08 · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by Dueling Banjo's

now u know THAT will get so many fanboy rants. waa wwaaaaa wwaaaaaa AMD is the best, just not right now, waa waaa.

I know. But it's the truth. It's going negative at AMD.

l V l · 03-31-08

2000+ Guests on OCN. GG.

03-31-08	#572 (permalink)
Soundzilla New to Overclock.net Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6 Rep: 0 Unique Rep: 0 Trader Rating: 0	Let me get this straight... Microsoft rips out direct hardware driver support in Vista. Some guy on the Internet uses Creative's IP to work around it and in the process distributes Creative's IP. Creative warns user that the IP is theirs. Outrage ensues. What am I missing here? From what I can tell, someone distributed IP without the right to do so. It doesn't matter how honorable his intent was. I don't get it. What's to be outrage about?

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