[OCN] Creative's fall from glory - Page 59 - Overclock.net

GANDALFtheGREY · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by d31337

You nailed it right on the head.

Its a lot of people who dont know how to update their drivers that want their 15 min of fame. I find it funny that these "problems" didnt arise until this guy, who probably breached the EULA by using the source code that hasnt been released, raised a stink and charged people for altering Creatives own drivers.

Everyone these days is looking for someone to point the blame. The problem with pointing out someone is that you have 3 fingers pointing back at yourself

Once again, if people are unhappy with say VoodooPC support, and I start building computers in my basement and slap a VoodooPC sticker on it because "I was unhappy with my support" I think Voodoo is going to be a little more than ticked, and I have no right to do so, and no one has no right to support me and anyone who does is an idiot.

I'm so confused right now. Is there proper Vista support or not from Creative?! Or are people really that dumb that they can't update their drivers online? Really, what's going on?

dralb · 03-31-08

So, this is what it would be like if the world were run by preteens. Destroying hardware and posting silly pictures and expecting them to care that some immature forum posters do not like their products. I don't know if any of you realize, but it helps to make a point when you intelligently act out. Write a letter. Start a petition. Blindly following the popular consensus without any real platform as to why you are doing what you are doing makes you all look stupid. It is so easy for you to be written off that way. If you all TRULY hated creative so much, why did it all of a sudden happen today? Why didn't you smash your card and boycott them once you realized that it wasn't working properly for you? It is things like this that hurt OCN. I have always liked the fact that this was a (usually) mature crowd that liked to think a little. I just think it is amusing that there seems to be the most reaction when it is something bad and there wouldn't be half the response if it were trying to praise something good. It is always easier to put something down without justification than it is to praise it. I guess that is because most of you just want to be accepted and popular and it doesn't matter the validity of your arguments. Maybe when you grow up you will realize that.

d31337 · 03-31-08

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla

$200+? Try $170 at newegg......and I've seen it for lower. It's not the 'same stuff' either, as it has MUCH higher quality PCB components, not to mention separate optical and jacks.......I've owned both cards and I will pay the extra $80 for the Prelude any day of the week.

I wont and guess what, our human ears will hear the same thing

As I have said before, there are some who will pay to hear essentially and for all intensive purpouses the same thing but I sure wont.

Forgive me if I am wrong but the Prelude is an X-Fi chip right? WHy are you paying almost 100 bucks more for a minimal if any gain?? Even if it does have higher quality PCB components, I didnt know better capacitors would make a chip have an auditory sound difference

jinja_ninja · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundzilla

Microsoft rips out direct hardware driver support in Vista.

Some guy on the Internet uses Creative's IP to work around it and in the process distributes Creative's IP.

Creative warns user that the IP is theirs.

Outrage ensues.

What am I missing here? From what I can tell, someone distributed IP without the right to do so. It doesn't matter how honorable his intent was. I don't get it. What's to be outrage about?

Have you had various Creative hardware fail on you?
Have you experienced their terrible "Support" service?
Have you used their Vista drivers with limited functionality?

If you can answer "no" to those questions, then please keep quiet.

Regardless of yesterday's Daniel_K events, Creative have been riding on a monopoly for years, selling a reasonable amount of defective produce. The recent events have basically brought the whole situation to boiling point.

d31337 · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dralb

So, this is what it would be like if the world were run by preteens. Destroying hardware and posting silly pictures and expecting them to care that some immature forum posters do not like their products. I don't know if any of you realize, but it helps to make a point when you intelligently act out. Write a letter. Start a petition. Blindly following the popular consensus without any real platform as to why you are doing what you are doing makes you all look stupid. It is so easy for you to be written off that way. If you all TRULY hated creative so much, why did it all of a sudden happen today? Why didn't you smash your card and boycott them once you realized that it wasn't working properly for you? It is things like this that hurt OCN. I have always liked the fact that this was a (usually) mature crowd that liked to think a little. I just think it is amusing that there seems to be the most reaction when it is something bad and there wouldn't be half the response if it were trying to praise something good. It is always easier to put something down without justification than it is to praise it. I guess that is because most of you just want to be accepted and popular and it doesn't matter the validity of your arguments. Maybe when you grow up you will realize that.

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binormalkilla · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dralb

So, this is what it would be like if the world were run by preteens. Destroying hardware and posting silly pictures and expecting them to care that some immature forum posters do not like their products. I don't know if any of you realize, but it helps to make a point when you intelligently act out. Write a letter. Start a petition. Blindly following the popular consensus without any real platform as to why you are doing what you are doing makes you all look stupid. It is so easy for you to be written off that way. If you all TRULY hated creative so much, why did it all of a sudden happen today? Why didn't you smash your card and boycott them once you realized that it wasn't working properly for you? It is things like this that hurt OCN. I have always liked the fact that this was a (usually) mature crowd that liked to think a little. I just think it is amusing that there seems to be the most reaction when it is something bad and there wouldn't be half the response if it were trying to praise something good. It is always easier to put something down without justification than it is to praise it. I guess that is because most of you just want to be accepted and popular and it doesn't matter the validity of your arguments. Maybe when you grow up you will realize that.

I'm with you on this......it seems that this is getting blown way out of proportion. This has turned into a big lynch mob for Creative full of angry little kids with nothing better to do than spam a forum................

I'm sorry, but if I hadn't heard about this I would be perfectly happy with the drivers for my Auzentech Prelude......my other two X-Fis worked fine in Vista as well (aside from a few issues when I first got Vista in August, but that was fixed a few weeks later)

I've seen a LOT of immaturity in the Creative forums......and most of the things people are saying are backed by misinformation.

d31337 · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinja_ninja

Have you had various Creative hardware fail on you?
Have you experienced their terrible "Support" service?
Have you used their Vista drivers with limited functionality?

If you can answer "no" to those questions, then please keep quiet.

Regardless of yesterday's Daniel_K events, Creative have been riding on a monopoly for years, selling a reasonable amount of defective produce. The recent events have basically brought the whole thing to boiling point.

Proof of the "defective" product or you keep quiet.

Umm monopoly?? I think onboard sound is more prevelant than a Creative card, or havent you noticed?? There are probably 20 other manufacturers of sound cards so that hardly makes them a monopoly.

Mehdi · 03-31-08

This... is truly epic. I could care less about creative, to be perfectly honest. Dedicated sound cards are the past, and this situation will only help advance software sound processing, which is the clear future.

Pegasus · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dralb

So, this is what it would be like if the world were run by preteens. Destroying hardware and posting silly pictures and expecting them to care that some immature forum posters do not like their products. I don't know if any of you realize, but it helps to make a point when you intelligently act out. Write a letter. Start a petition. Blindly following the popular consensus without any real platform as to why you are doing what you are doing makes you all look stupid. It is so easy for you to be written off that way. If you all TRULY hated creative so much, why did it all of a sudden happen today? Why didn't you smash your card and boycott them once you realized that it wasn't working properly for you? It is things like this that hurt OCN. I have always liked the fact that this was a (usually) mature crowd that liked to think a little. I just think it is amusing that there seems to be the most reaction when it is something bad and there wouldn't be half the response if it were trying to praise something good. It is always easier to put something down without justification than it is to praise it. I guess that is because most of you just want to be accepted and popular and it doesn't matter the validity of your arguments. Maybe when you grow up you will realize that.

Wow, you do realise you wasted 120 seconds of your life posting that? It's been said sooo many times, no one gives a ****, now shutup already, I didn't even bother wasting my time reading the whole post.
Yay I'm officially immature

edeekeos · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dralb

So, this is what it would be like if the world were run by preteens. Destroying hardware and posting silly pictures and expecting them to care that some immature forum posters do not like their products. I don't know if any of you realize, but it helps to make a point when you intelligently act out. Write a letter. Start a petition. Blindly following the popular consensus without any real platform as to why you are doing what you are doing makes you all look stupid. It is so easy for you to be written off that way. If you all TRULY hated creative so much, why did it all of a sudden happen today? Why didn't you smash your card and boycott them once you realized that it wasn't working properly for you? It is things like this that hurt OCN. I have always liked the fact that this was a (usually) mature crowd that liked to think a little. I just think it is amusing that there seems to be the most reaction when it is something bad and there wouldn't be half the response if it were trying to praise something good. It is always easier to put something down without justification than it is to praise it. I guess that is because most of you just want to be accepted and popular and it doesn't matter the validity of your arguments. Maybe when you grow up you will realize that.

QFT!!!.

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