[OCN] Creative's fall from glory - Page 77 - Overclock.net

jinja_ninja · 03-31-08

Wow, just installed Daniel_K drivers and now I have all my EAX options back! Yay!

Up yours Creative

dragosmp · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool Matty

Incorrect. Donations was not the real issue Creative had. It was "misuse of our IP", which is ridiculous because all he was doing was giving us what we were promised on the box, and lied to on Creative's site.

The problem is that his dvd has allover the "Creative" logo. Had he release them under a different name (like omega, ngo and many others) it would have been fine legally.

bahbahthelamb · 03-31-08

I used to be a large supporter in Creative including multiple purchases of sound cards $200+. That was many years ago, as their software support was declining further and further, it became apparent to me around 2002, that the only thing that made Creative seem prestigious and an industry leader was the inflated prices. It's a scam that many companies have done; a name and logo that you know and an overly-expensive price and people will buy it and delude themselves into thinking they got quality merchandise.

When I had that huge ISA Sound Blaster AWE32, my first Creative product, I was in love. I recommended Creative to everybody, and not just for Sound Cards. I bought their modems, their video cards; if I could get that peripheral from Creative, I trusted it and bought it. When Windows XP was released, they had serious issues getting drivers for their sound cards working properly. At that time, I was using a Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum. While the Audigy 2 was out at that time, I had only owned that $200 sound card (and accessories) for about two years and I was NOT going to be spending $100 a year on getting sound to come off my computer, no matter how intricate the audio setup. The XP driver would screw up on the remote, spontaneously max out the volume unprovoked, and wouldn't route out to the rear speakers on half of the applications due to poor DirectX interoperability. On top of that, they offered no Linux support, which was the route that I was heading for at the time. Now I am converted over to Linux and enjoying that I am getting comparable 7.1 surround hardware support and better software support off of a dirt cheap onboard adapter (and that’s in all four of the OS’s on my computer: openSUSE 10.3, Windows XP (x86), Windows Vista (x86_64), and MacOS X 10.4.8). I have a surround receiver that blows the features of the latest Creative devices away and it cost me less than $120 and has given me good service for 5+ years.

All you need from your computer’s sound card is a good digital input and a good digital output; everything else can be externalized for cheaper and better support.

I’ve been boycotting Creative for six years due to poor software support and I am completely appalled by this recent incident. As far as I know, Creative has the same Linux support as they did six years ago which is 3rd party drivers only. If this is the case, and they are making a stance against 3rd party drivers, then it will cut-off the Linux community. While they already lost me as a customer, there are many more that they can lose by making such a stance.

I look forward to the downfall of Creative almost as much as I look forward to the downfall of Microsoft; I just see Creative’s downfall happening a lot sooner.

-Josh

dragosmp · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex98uk

Anyone got a link to Daniel_K's drivers.

google them and you'll find your link. Does anybody know if it's legal to use them?

jinja_ninja · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by bahbahthelamb

I look forward to the downfall of Creative almost as much as I look forward to the downfall of Microsoft; I just see Creative’s downfall happening a lot sooner.

The downfall of Microsoft will make us all use horrible Linux distros.

Linux is great for servers... that's about it. For average, non-enthusiast user, its a goddamn nightmare.

But that's another discussion all together

tehpwnerofn00bs · 03-31-08

I don't think this has been posted, so check out Nordic Hardware's rather impartial commentary on the present hubbub.

jinja_ninja · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragosmp

google them and you'll find your link. Does anybody know if it's legal to use them?

Bah, look back one page and you will see a post of mine with a link.

Nobody reads anything anymore

**Mootsfox** · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragosmp

The problem is that his dvd has allover the "Creative" logo. Had he release them under a different name (like omega, ngo and many others) it would have been fine legally.

IP means Intellectual Property. Creative doesn't care about the logos, they care about their code being changed and repackaged.

*Murlocke* · 03-31-08

This was a triumph.
I'm making a note here:
HUGE SUCCESS.
It's hard to overstate
my satisfaction.

Yea i'm bored.

R3ap3R · 03-31-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlocke

2nd highest on digg.

Good job guys.

The more popular this gets, the more chance we have of good drivers.

Woot

@ any mod: Can I link the reputable torrents in the OP, please?

03-31-08	#763 (permalink)
bahbahthelamb New to Overclock.net Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1 Rep: 0 Unique Rep: 0 Trader Rating: 0	Creative has soiled their name that was upheld with pride 10 years ago. I used to be a large supporter in Creative including multiple purchases of sound cards $200+. That was many years ago, as their software support was declining further and further, it became apparent to me around 2002, that the only thing that made Creative seem prestigious and an industry leader was the inflated prices. It's a scam that many companies have done; a name and logo that you know and an overly-expensive price and people will buy it and delude themselves into thinking they got quality merchandise. When I had that huge ISA Sound Blaster AWE32, my first Creative product, I was in love. I recommended Creative to everybody, and not just for Sound Cards. I bought their modems, their video cards; if I could get that peripheral from Creative, I trusted it and bought it. When Windows XP was released, they had serious issues getting drivers for their sound cards working properly. At that time, I was using a Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum. While the Audigy 2 was out at that time, I had only owned that $200 sound card (and accessories) for about two years and I was NOT going to be spending $100 a year on getting sound to come off my computer, no matter how intricate the audio setup. The XP driver would screw up on the remote, spontaneously max out the volume unprovoked, and wouldn't route out to the rear speakers on half of the applications due to poor DirectX interoperability. On top of that, they offered no Linux support, which was the route that I was heading for at the time. Now I am converted over to Linux and enjoying that I am getting comparable 7.1 surround hardware support and better software support off of a dirt cheap onboard adapter (and that’s in all four of the OS’s on my computer: openSUSE 10.3, Windows XP (x86), Windows Vista (x86_64), and MacOS X 10.4.8). I have a surround receiver that blows the features of the latest Creative devices away and it cost me less than $120 and has given me good service for 5+ years. All you need from your computer’s sound card is a good digital input and a good digital output; everything else can be externalized for cheaper and better support. I’ve been boycotting Creative for six years due to poor software support and I am completely appalled by this recent incident. As far as I know, Creative has the same Linux support as they did six years ago which is 3rd party drivers only. If this is the case, and they are making a stance against 3rd party drivers, then it will cut-off the Linux community. While they already lost me as a customer, there are many more that they can lose by making such a stance. I look forward to the downfall of Creative almost as much as I look forward to the downfall of Microsoft; I just see Creative’s downfall happening a lot sooner. -Josh

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