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bowman · 05-15-08

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Originally Posted by -AMD-

go amd DROP THEM PRICES. INTEL AND NVIDIA ARE GREEDY. AMD CARES FOR THE CONSUMER

Haha, what do you think AMD is, a charity?

Corporations will be corporations.

slngsht · 05-15-08

very well put. I can understand what he's saying though, but you have to look at it this way: AMD doesn't hold the most market share and is having a hard time profiting. Therefore, they can't afford to be greedy. If they did have the most market share, then of COURSE they would appear to be greedy. People love to root for the underdog.

Cheetos316 · 05-15-08

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Originally Posted by bowman

The current Radeon 3870 has 320 shaders, while the 8800GTX and 9800GTX have 128. The 3870 doesn't beat any of these cards.

The numbers can't be compared apples-to-apples across the product lines.

The number of SPs (stream processors) cannot be used to compare the two because each company is referring to something different when they say how many SPs are in the GPU. Here is a great article detailing the differences between the two architectures. Also, the other units that are not included in the SP count but are still very important, ROPs and TMUs, have been increased in the HD4000 series. The number of ROPs and TMUs might have been a big bottleneck for the HD3000 series so hopefully the increase will greatly improve the efficiency and performance of the HD4000s.

criminal · 05-15-08

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Originally Posted by Cheetos316

The number of SPs (stream processors) cannot be used to compare the two because each company is referring to something different when they say how many SPs are in the GPU. Here is a great article detailing the differences between the two architectures. Also, the other units that are not included in the SP count but are still very important, ROPs and TMUs, have been increased in the HD4000 series. The number of ROPs and TMUs might have been a big bottleneck for the HD3000 series so hopefully the increase will greatly improve the efficiency and performance of the HD4000s.

Yeah, exactly what he said.

TnB= Gir · 05-15-08

The increased ROP and TMU count will also greatly help the AA performance, which was the Achilles heel of the HD2k and HD3k series.

binormalkilla · 05-15-08

Pricing is awesome......I can't wait. I still will wait until fall or winter though......my games run great with my current set up.

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Originally Posted by TnB= Gir

The increased ROP and TMU count will also greatly help the AA performance, which was the Achilles heel of the HD2k and HD3k series.

This is true. I don't run more AA than 4X on most games (except Battlefield series) because I simply can't tell a difference at 1920x1080...........seriously. I compared IQ between 4X and 32X in Frontlines Fuels of War and I couldn't tell.....crazy.
However this sucks for people running lower res with a single card....they need it.

Brenbren · 05-15-08

aww, i'm so annoyed about the lateness.. but they'll be great cards.. july though.. well, i'll live.

these ought to live up to expectations

RayvinAzn · 05-15-08

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Originally Posted by Cheetos316

Also, the other units that are not included in the SP count but are still very important, ROPs and TMUs, have been increased in the HD4000 series. The number of ROPs and TMUs might have been a big bottleneck for the HD3000 series so hopefully the increase will greatly improve the efficiency and performance of the HD4000s.

I think ROPs stayed the same, only TMUs got doubled.