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Old 05-17-08   #1 (permalink)
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Each year the topic of CPU scaling comes to mind in relation to gaming. Especially when we see new processors enter the market time after time I ask myself again; how much influence do these new model processors actually have? There have been some dramatic changes over the past couple of years though as processor manufacturers have hit a hard brick wall. That wall being the incremental increase of the clock frequency, or moreover ... the lack of it. Somehow everything stops at 3200 MHz in the processor R&D segment and for years now the fastest clocked processors never have exceeded that magic number. Surely we overclock much higher and new records have been set at 4 and with LN2 sub-zero temperature cooling reaching 5 GHz, for us 'regular' consumers we stick at that 3.2 GHz frequency border.
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I stopped reading the review when they said <30FPS = Very Limited Gameplay.

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So if a graphics card barely manages less than 30 FPS, then the game is not very playable, we want to avoid that at all cost.
Wrong on so many levels.. even 15FPS is playable.

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I do not deny your statement Murlocke, but for me anything below 45fps gives me a rather minor headache. I think everyone has a different opinion of this and everyone has varying levels of eyesight, which would make any statement regarding fps at lower levels hard to compare. But letting this statement alone prevent you from reading a good article, welll... that's your loss.
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I do not deny your statement Murlocke, but for me anything below 45fps gives me a rather minor headache. I think everyone has a different opinion of this and everyone has varying levels of eyesight, which would make any statement regarding fps at lower levels hard to compare. But letting this statement alone prevent you from reading a good article, welll... that's your loss.
I still looked at the graphs, just didn't read anything they said

Just how I thought it would be though... processor means like nothing at 1920x1200 which is what I game at. People buying the new penryns at 1,500$ are indeed crazy or very rich.

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I stopped reading the review when they said <30FPS = Very Limit Gameplay.



Wrong on so many levels.. even 15FPS is playable.

Yeah. Anything above 20fps is enough to be considered "enjoyable".
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Yeah. Anything above 20fps is enough to be considered "enjoyable".
It depends on the game IMO.

Playing Crysis @ 15 fps, sure why not.
Playing CoD4 @ 15 fps, nah dont think so.
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It depends on the game IMO.

Playing Crysis @ 15 fps, sure why not.
Playing CoD4 @ 15 fps, nah dont think so.
True enough. When I played WoW anything under 50FPS seemed like 15FPS in crysis.

I think 20+ is plenty playable on any game though, but I prefer atleast 25. Saying anything under 30FPS is "very limited gameplay" is just really wrong IMHO.

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I stopped reading the review when they said <30FPS = Very Limit Gameplay.



Wrong on so many levels.. even 15FPS is playable.
Do you only play Crysis or something? Because it is playable at those frame rates?

If I have <30fps in games like COD4, its laggy and unplayable.
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Grr why do these stupid sites NEVER test source games?

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Yeah, it really depends on the game, most fps games are doable in the 15-30fps range while a combat flight sim will suffer under 30 fps drastically. The are so many factors and so much data to gather and process at very high speeds in a dogfight (esp. WWII era prop and gun fighters) that you can miss something at less than 30 fps that would be vital to getting your kill or not getting killed yourself. As for scalability of the cpu in games, this also depends on the game, some rely more on the cpu than others, some are gpu hogs.
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