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003 · 06-06-08

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Originally Posted by G|F.E.A.D|Killa

ATI for benching and nvidia for games. thats the way its always been

Vantage is actually tipped in nvidia's favor, especially on the extreme preset.

3dmark is only ati favoring when it is on it's default setting which is much more cpu intensive. But when you crank up the graphics to maximum and throw in AA, it becomes GPU intensive, and it's scores are much, MUCH more meaningful as to actual gaming performance.

metala · 06-06-08

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Originally Posted by grunion

You know what that means...GTX 280GX2

And guys will bite again

That means 2 X $650 = $1300
And nVidia will become enthusiast exclusive.

crazcookye · 06-06-08

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

OMG 2 beats 1. .. . . never would have thought that was possible

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Nah seriously, this looks pretty fantastic for AMD.

The point of the x2 is that it is most likely be cheaper than the GTX280.
I don't care how many cores, as long as I get my money's worth.

markatto · 06-06-08

ATI cards tend to bench very well compared to nvidia cards; I'm not entirely sure whether that's due to nvidia being in bed with the game manufacturers and artificially inflating their game performance, or if the nvidia cards are just more gaming oriented. Either way, benchmarks aren't the end all.

On the flip side, any of these new cards can handle pretty much anything any game has to offer (hopefully including the new crysis sequel, assuming they find a way to make it run more efficiently,) so really I'd almost rather have the card that benches higher. Isn't e-peen the whole point of $4k setups anyway?

To be honest, at the moment i don't see any reason to upgrade. Nehalem looks VERY promising, but I really don't need it yet. I figure that I've had my couple months near the top of the heap; I can't afford to stay on top ALL the time. I'm holding out until Sandy Bridge on processors, and waiting for the next BIG jump in gpus (ie nvidia 8600 -> nvidia 8800)

But hey, if you got the cash... crossfire seems to scale better than sli as far as i can tell, so I'd definitely go for a pair of 4870x2 cards. I'm sure they'll be significantly less expensive than whatever dual cards nvidia throws together. Watercooling the dual ATI cards is easier as well. And if you can afford these cards, you can afford water!

-Mark

Licht · 06-06-08

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Originally Posted by markatto

ATI cards tend to bench very well compared to nvidia cards; I'm not entirely sure whether that's due to nvidia being in bed with the game manufacturers and artificially inflating their game performance, or if the nvidia cards are just more gaming oriented. Either way, benchmarks aren't the end all.

On the flip side, any of these new cards can handle pretty much anything any game has to offer (hopefully including the new crysis sequel, assuming they find a way to make it run more efficiently,) so really I'd almost rather have the card that benches higher. Isn't e-peen the whole point of $4k setups anyway?

To be honest, at the moment i don't see any reason to upgrade. Nehalem looks VERY promising, but I really don't need it yet. I figure that I've had my couple months near the top of the heap; I can't afford to stay on top ALL the time. I'm holding out until Sandy Bridge on processors, and waiting for the next BIG jump in gpus (ie nvidia 8600 -> nvidia 8800)

But hey, if you got the cash... crossfire seems to scale better than sli as far as i can tell, so I'd definitely go for a pair of 4870x2 cards. I'm sure they'll be significantly less expensive than whatever dual cards nvidia throws together. Watercooling the dual ATI cards is easier as well. And if you can afford these cards, you can afford water!

-Mark

Look at nVidia scores verses ATI scores on Vantage. ATI doesn't have benching anymore. So much so people are speculating they have nVidia optimization as well (which is why ATI used to do so much better benching, it didn't have nVidia optimization keeping the competition on unfair grounds.) I'm not saying one way or another, i'm thinking personally HD3K was just bad at ray tracing or something. But i wouldn't put it past nVidia to try and buy out the benchmarks too.

uberjon · 06-06-08

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2x256-bit memory interface to either GDDR3 or GDDR5 memories.

imagine the memory bandwidth! GDDR5 + 512-bit interface

003 · 06-06-08

Ya, the whole "ati is better for benching" argument here is kind of null because it has been shown time and time again the G92 whips the RV670 in vantage.

Licht · 06-06-08

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Originally Posted by uberjon

imagine the memory bandwidth! GDDR5 + 512-bit interface

Thats total, as in each core actually only has 256bit but if you add them both together you get 512bit. At least in the HD3K series it is.

TrueForm · 06-06-08

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Originally Posted by LegendaryC

Hmm, 3DMark Vantage. Actual game benchmarks would be nice, because that's all that really matters in the end.

Not saying the X2 will perform worse, I just want more info!

Agreed.

I think ATI is really trying hard to push there products in the market which is nice!

DuDeInThEmOoN42 · 06-06-08

Now I can finally upgrade from my beloved 7800 GT this summer!

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