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Muhahahaha · 08-06-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by C2H6O

Apple definitely has its niche carved out. Except for editing, though, apples are more like the plastic thingies sitting in a bowl on your grandma's dining table. Shiny, but not too tasty.

LOL. That's great.

I'm not an Apple hater either. I love my new iPhone 3G!

But if you could build Cell Phones, I sure would try...

Iceman0803 · 08-06-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNite

"average desktop 550$"

not on this site xD

Yes but we are not average.....well not me at least....

Infinitegrim · 08-07-08

Funny thing is, They are exactly right, look at this almost double! and the HP in terms of hardware is better. The HP screen has much better resolution and im sure the 9600M GT is much better then the 8600M GT. So the HP is much better and half the price! But the HP is .43 pounds heavier! So there is no way you can call this HP laptop "low -mid end" that means this HP is high end!

Macbook Pro $2,499.00
15" 1440 x 900 pixels
2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB (two SO-DIMMs)
250GB Serial ATA, 5400 rpm
8x double-layer SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 512MB of GDDR3 SDRAM
5.4 pounds

HP dv5t series $1,380
Upgrade to Genuine Windows Vista Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
15.4" 1680 x 1050 pixels
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T9400 (2.53 GHz)
2GB RAM (two DIMMs)
250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
HP Imprint Finish (Mesh) + Microphone + Webcam
5.83 pounds

RPIJG · 08-07-08

How much does that proprietary hardware chip in the apples cost?

SG_Stryker · 08-07-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPIJG

How much does that proprietary hardware chip in the apples cost?

Honest question or sarcastic question?

Cause its minimal, at best...really. You are paying for the OS development and niche...its not physically that much more expensive.

flyin15sec · 08-07-08

Sounds like NF200 on a X58.

RPIJG · 08-07-08

it was honest, I'm figuring it's almost nothing also. I just don't know.

I'll admit to wondering what the price hub bub is all about, but no matter how much I try I can't hate them, the OS just makes me feel so happy. The dashboard, the functionality, I hate it for the expense, but I love how it works.

Lelouch · 08-07-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathris

Actually its totally relevent. You can build PCs, you can't build Macs, so comparing the cheapest solution to the cheapest solution is a perfect comparison.

But since I'm sure you're going to be persistant, heres a Dell XPS 730:

PROCESSOR Intel® Core™2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium
COOLING OPTION Copper base Heat Sink with aluminum fins
MEMORY 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1067MHz - 4 DIMMs
HARD DRIVE 500GB - Seagate 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
SECOND HARD DRIVE 500GB - Seagate 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
SOUND CARD Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeMusic (D) Sound Card
GRAPHICS CARD SINGLE CARD: nVidia GeForce GTX 280 – 1024MB
OPTICAL DRIVE Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
MONITOR 24 inch E248WFP Widescreen Digital Flat Panel Monitor

$2,669

Compare OEM's to Mac, nothing competes with building it yourself....

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathris

Just replacing the PC in the comparison posted by ColdTriton that Lelouch called retarded.

Lets do a full comparison then, I'll try to make everything as equal as possible, but if I can't then the better one will be in bold:

Dell Studio Hybrid vs Mac Mini
2.00GHz C2D vs 2.00GHz C2D
2GB DDR2 667
160GB SATA HDD vs 160GB SATA HDD
5.1 Channel Audio vs ? (Probably stereo?)
GMA X3100 vs GMA 950
8X Slot Loading Combo Drive vs. 8X Slot Loading Combo Drive
Wireless 802.11n vs 802.11g
8-in-1 Card reader vs Firewire?
2.0 Channel Speakers vs. Built in speaker (mono?)
7 Distinct Colors vs. Apple White
$739 vs $1097

HP Touch Smart 22" vs iMac
2.16GHz C2D vs 2.4GHz C2D
4GB DDR2 667 vs 4GB DDR2 667
500GB HDD vs 500GB HDD
8X(?) Slot Loading Combo Drive vs. 8X Slot Loading Combo Drive
GeForce 9300M GS HD 256mb vs. Radeon HD 2400XT 128mb
Stereo Speakers vs Stereo Speakers
Built in Mic vs Built in Mic
802.11n vs 802.11n
5-in-1 card reader vs nothing
1 Firewire (400?) vs 1 Firewire 400 + 1 Firewire 800
56k modem vs. Common sense
Built in webcam vs Built in webcam
22" Touch Screen LCD vs. 20" LCD

$1551.99 vs $1699 Closer but I mean, TOUCHSCREEN!

XPS 730 vs Mac Pro (I'm going to assume that if you need two processors that you know how to build your own rig so I'll save Apple that Ass-whooping
Q9550 2.83GHz vs Xeon 2.8GHz (Tough call, so I won't start another war here)
4GB DDR3 1066 vs 4GB DDR2 800
1TB HDD vs 1TB HDD
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic vs Unspecified Apple (probably onboard

)
9800GT vs 8800GT (Hmm...

)
Everything else basically the same, I'm not going to type it all out...

$2409 vs $3349

So it seems that even with DDR3, the Dell still beats the Apple out by nearly $1000! And remember, this is one OEM compared to another, if I were to do the PC off Newegg someone would be selling Steve Job's ****-stained pants on eBay...

Yep, Dell beats the Mac Mini.. However..

Dell XPS One

20"
E4500 2.2GHZ
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs
Integrated Video
250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
8-in-1 Media Reader Included
Internal PCI 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless network card included
8X Slot load CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW)
Integrated Audio - 2.0 Speakers
Hybrid Analog/Digital TV Tuner with Remote Control
$1299

iMac

20"
2.4 GHZ Core 2
2GB 800MHZ DDR2
2400XT
250GB HD
$1,299

Apple's on top there.

2nd Dell XPS One
E6550 2.33GHZ
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 Video Card
320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
8-in-1 Media Reader Included
Internal PCI 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless network card included
8X Slot load CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW)
Integrated Audio - 2.0 Speakers
Hybrid Analog/Digital TV Tuner with Remote Control
$1,439

Same iMac with a 320GB HD..

$1,349.00

THIRD Dell XPS One..

20"
e6550 2.33 ghz
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 Video Card
500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
8-in-1 Media Reader Included
Internal PCI 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless network card included
Integrated Audio - 2.0 Speakers
Hybrid Analog/Digital TV Tuner with Remote Control
$1,989

iMac 24"

2.8Ghz
2GB 800MHZ DDR2
500GB HD
8800GS
$1,999

Well, how about that?

Also, the Mac PRO is a workstation, compare it to a workstation with 2 processors. IT doesnt care if you can custom build a computer; they dont use custom builds in IT usually (99.999% they do not). Therefore, you have to base your price off of the workstations Dell and HP provide.

Ill let you redo your last comparison.

carl25 · 08-07-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathris

Just replacing the PC in the comparison posted by ColdTriton that Lelouch called retarded.

Lets do a full comparison then, I'll try to make everything as equal as possible, but if I can't then the better one will be in bold:

Dell Studio Hybrid vs Mac Mini
2.00GHz C2D vs 2.00GHz C2D
2GB DDR2 667
160GB SATA HDD vs 160GB SATA HDD
5.1 Channel Audio vs ? (Probably stereo?)
GMA X3100 vs GMA 950
8X Slot Loading Combo Drive vs. 8X Slot Loading Combo Drive
Wireless 802.11n vs 802.11g
8-in-1 Card reader vs Firewire?
2.0 Channel Speakers vs. Built in speaker (mono?)
7 Distinct Colors vs. Apple White
$739 vs $1097

HP Touch Smart 22" vs iMac
2.16GHz C2D vs 2.4GHz C2D
4GB DDR2 667 vs 4GB DDR2 667
500GB HDD vs 500GB HDD
8X(?) Slot Loading Combo Drive vs. 8X Slot Loading Combo Drive
GeForce 9300M GS HD 256mb vs. Radeon HD 2400XT 128mb
Stereo Speakers vs Stereo Speakers
Built in Mic vs Built in Mic
802.11n vs 802.11n
5-in-1 card reader vs nothing
1 Firewire (400?) vs 1 Firewire 400 + 1 Firewire 800
56k modem vs. Common sense
Built in webcam vs Built in webcam
22" Touch Screen LCD vs. 20" LCD

$1551.99 vs $1699 Closer but I mean, TOUCHSCREEN!

XPS 730 vs Mac Pro (I'm going to assume that if you need two processors that you know how to build your own rig so I'll save Apple that Ass-whooping
Q9550 2.83GHz vs Xeon 2.8GHz (Tough call, so I won't start another war here)
4GB DDR3 1066 vs 4GB DDR2 800
1TB HDD vs 1TB HDD
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic vs Unspecified Apple (probably onboard

)
9800GT vs 8800GT (Hmm...

)
Everything else basically the same, I'm not going to type it all out...

$2409 vs $3349

So it seems that even with DDR3, the Dell still beats the Apple out by nearly $1000! And remember, this is one OEM compared to another, if I were to do the PC off Newegg someone would be selling Steve Job's ****-stained pants on eBay...

+1

blupupher · 08-07-08

Still my favorite mac vs PC pic:

As for a $500 PC, you can build a decent one, but the store bought ones need some help (usually have onboard video, 1 gig RAM, sometimes 2, smaller HDD (~ 80-160 gig, usually still IDE), and generic quality stuff in most cases). Where the bundled PC's value is when you get a 19" monitor and printer included, it is what most people need.

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