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Old 09-20-08   #51 (permalink)
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Nvidia has to use two cards to beat ATI's top card so I am not even bothered.
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indeed, ATi's top card is still just one card and doesn't need a multiple-support or support-brand motherboard...
And ATI ahve to use two cards to beat that top Nvidia card. So far as Single card graphics go, Nvidia has the top performer. As far as dual card solutions, ATI has the top performer.

Which is where I drew fault from. As the article claims the 4870 is better than any Nvidia offering, when it's not. You require a 4870X2 to have the best performing card and an X2 is a different kettle of fish to the normal and original card. The article clearly defines them differently and acknowledges they're two separate cards and goes as far as not comparing the X2 to the GTX280 (as they were doing the first place)

Another bias POS from Fudzilla. Accept it.
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The HD4870X2 is ONE card. It works like any other graphics card. The number of GPUs is irrelevant because it's still housed and functions as a single card.

The crown switches between Nvidia and ATI, no one keeps it forever. ATI is winning this round, period.
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The HD4870X2 is ONE card. It works like any other graphics card. The number of GPUs is irrelevant because it's still housed and functions as a single card.

The crown switches between Nvidia and ATI, no one keeps it forever. ATI is winning this round, period.

Truth. The sooner nvidia (and their fanb...ahem..supporters) realise that the better.

Just let ati have their moment this time, and get back to the drawing board and design something that is better and come back stronger for the next round of battle.
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The HD4870X2 is ONE card. It works like any other graphics card. The number of GPUs is irrelevant because it's still housed and functions as a single card.

The crown switches between Nvidia and ATI, no one keeps it forever. ATI is winning this round, period.
No it's not like any other card. Are you ignorant? It requires Crossfire and registers as mutlri-GPU. My experience is limited by I believe Crossfire can be emulated on non-crossfire boards but you still require crossfire. It is housed as a single (albeit absolutely massive) card but functions as two cards. It is two cards. Hense "X2" in the title.

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The X" IS the fastest card. However the 4870 is not the best performance card. The 280GTX is and up until recently the 4850 has been the third place card.

I mean, I'm not unhappy, or something sad like that, that ATI has some fast cards, but I hate Fudzilla and the bias they spew.
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But it requires ONE slot. And will work on any mobo. How does it matter if it 'requires' Crossfire.
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Truth. The sooner nvidia (and their fanb...ahem..supporters) realise that the better.

Just let ati have their moment this time, and get back to the drawing board and design something that is better and come back stronger for the next round of battle.
round of battle... wow... only difference now is that 1066 isn't a date, it's a clock speed...

first priority for both parties is high-stress capable cooling, i keep reading all over the place about GTX200's and 4800s artifacting under high loads... is it just water blocks and the HIS IceQ4 that is doing the job adequately for users at the moment...?

nvidia could work on multiple monitor support in SLI, ATi could work on attempting to make their own previous flagship look rubbish like they did between 3k and 4k (see sig)
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But it requires ONE slot. And will work on any mobo. How does it matter if it 'requires' Crossfire.
Think what you like the facts are in and it registers as two GPU's, multi-GPU, not a single GPU :/
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And ATI ahve to use two cards to beat that top Nvidia card. So far as Single card graphics go, Nvidia has the top performer. As far as dual card solutions, ATI has the top performer.

Which is where I drew fault from. As the article claims the 4870 is better than any Nvidia offering, when it's not. You require a 4870X2 to have the best performing card and an X2 is a different kettle of fish to the normal and original card. The article clearly defines them differently and acknowledges they're two separate cards and goes as far as not comparing the X2 to the GTX280 (as they were doing the first place)

Another bias POS from Fudzilla. Accept it.
Very true.

It is an optimized crossfire on a stick, and thats it.

9800GX2, 3870x2, 7950GX2, are all just SLI and Crossfire on a stick, with little optimizations, and while the 4870x2 is a bit more optimized, it is still very driver effected, and if you find a game that is poorly coded, it will still perform like a single GPU.

The media thrives off hysteria, and sensational headlines, and the yellow journalist FUD is no different.

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Think what you like the facts are in and it registers as two GPU's, multi-GPU, not a single GPU :/
That's a valid point. But you have to admit, that the 4870X2 is the most powerful graphics card now. Nvidia may have the most powerful core, but ATi has the most powerful card. Simple and no two ways about it.

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But its on a stick. And to most people that's all that matters.
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That's a valid point. But you have to admit, that the 4870X2 is the most powerful graphics card now. Nvidia may have the most powerful core, but ATi has the most powerful card. Simple and no two ways about it.



But its on a stick. And to most people that's all that matters.
Oh, I already have said that the X2 is the best card on the market right now. ATI has the most powerful card and until this new 260 came out the hd 4870 was the third best. But then again, there's the 1GB version of 4870 that stomps on a lot of cards. So who knows.

ATI is definately "winning this round" as much as it pains me to consider this some sort of game and race.

But my reason for posting was the fact that the article calls the X2 the fastest and the normal non-X2 the best performance when it's not. That is the 280GTX.

And as a note I'm no fanboy. The 280GTX can go to overpriced hell.
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