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How is that important?
i'm guessing that it would mean that if it requires activating as a crossfire, that douses the idea that it's a single card, EVEN THOUGH its on ONE PCB...
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I said the 280GTX is the best single card. The 4870 is the best for the price and the best overall (you know that word, right? As in over and above all else?) is the X2.
The best single card is the HD4870X2. I don't care what it's doing on the card, it's still a single card, just as the GTX280 is.
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allow me to then...

linky may not be the most reliable, but it's something...
... 8.4 drivers? What?


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i'm guessing that it would mean that if it requires activating as a crossfire, that douses the idea that it's a single card, EVEN THOUGH its on ONE PCB...
It's PHYSICALLY 1 card and software 2 cards

Pentium 4's and hyperthreading
You don't call Pentium 4's dual core processors do you?

EDIT:lol that comparison's not really related... I still stand by the fact that the 4870X2 is 1 card despite what software says because it's physically 1 card
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... 8.4 drivers? What?
better than nothing...

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Just like Pentium 4's and hyperthreading
You don't call Pentium 4's dual core processors do you?
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How is that important?
Look, either go back and do some research or don't comment.

Don't attack my statement when you don't know the background. It tends to annoy people.

Right.

The article states:

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This is correct.

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Incorrect.

That was my beef.

Then someone said that they didn't mind this article because it takes two ATI GPU's to best one Nvidia GPU. And someone else claimed that the X2 isn't two GPU's and I pointed out that they are wrong (over and over without anyone who is an obvious ATI fanboy being able to recognise it. It's not even like it's a bad thing. I was just correcting some of the facts) The X2 is two GPU's on one board. It requires Crossfire to function correctly and registers as two cards.

All I was doing was correcting facts and ATI freaks tend to get angry at this and shout "NO NO NO, FOR GOD SAKE LET ATI WIN THIS ROUND U GUYZ, COME ON NVIDIA WINNED THE LAST ONE NOW ITS OUT TURN WHIIIIIINGE"

Well damn. I'm just pointing out the facts and that Fudzilla is a bias website that publishes trash like clockwork.

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Rubbish. Quad means four. Four Cores is Quad Core.
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Then someone said that they didn't mind this article because it takes two ATI GPU's to best one Nvidia GPU. And someone else claimed that the X2 isn't two GPU's and I pointed out that they are wrong (over and over without anyone who is an obvious ATI fanboy being able to recognise it. It's not even like it's a bad thing. I was just correcting some of the facts) The X2 is two GPU's on one board. It requires Crossfire to function correctly and registers as two cards.
Yep, and if you are trying to play a game that has poor crossfire support, the 4870X2 has a worse price/performance ratio than the GTX280, and sometimes worse performance in general
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Rubbish. Quad means four. Four Cores is Quad Core.
there's a difference between threaded and native though...

back to the river:
to agree and disagree with everyone and noone,

it is most definitely never any companies TURN to be leading the graphics "war", it's just like the processor "war", it's all about which company can actually pull their fingers out and put something decent on the market, in which for a long time, it was nvidia who were delivering more-so than ATi.

Even as someone who currently prefers ATi over nvidia for the simple reason of cost, i can honestly say nvidia are definitely still delivering the goods, it's just that ATi have connected a string of ranges together which are slowly range-by-range taking a stranglehold of small segments of the market, in which at the current pace may completely out-trump the next nvidia series.

none of this speculation, however takes into account the cruel truth of "the harder they fall", or the possibility that the nearby gt206 chip could do a repeat of the 8800 ultra to the entire market...
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there's a difference between threaded and native though...

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it is most definitely never any companies TURN to be leading the graphics "war", it's just like the processor "war", it's all about which company can actually pull their fingers out and put something decent on the market, in which for a long time, it was nvidia who were delivering.

Even as someone who currently prefers ATi over nvidia for the simple reason of cost, i can honestly say nvidia are definitely still delivering the goods, it's just that ATi have connected a string of ranges together which are slowly range-by-range taking a stranglehold of small segments of the market, in which at the current pace may completely out-trump the next nvidia series.

none of this speculation, however takes into account the cruel truth of "the harder they fall", or the possibility that the nearby gt206 chip could do a repeat of the 8800 ultra to the entire market...
Oh, definately. This is the point I try to make about "wars" and "winning" and such. Using those terms make you a silly, silly person. It's almost as cyclical as the economy.

Right now I'm not bothering with this generation until they've all gotten a lot cheaper. I bought the 8800GT for £220 last year and now it's worth less than half of that and to be quite honest that is annoying. So I'll wait until the 4870 is a decent price (about £100) and get that.
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Incorrect.

That was my beef.

Then someone said that they didn't mind this article because it takes two ATI GPU's to best one Nvidia GPU. And someone else claimed that the X2 isn't two GPU's and I pointed out that they are wrong (over and over without anyone who is an obvious ATI fanboy being able to recognise it. It's not even like it's a bad thing. I was just correcting some of the facts) The X2 is two GPU's on one board. It requires Crossfire to function correctly and registers as two cards.
The 4870X2 is the best performer

The 4870X2 is indeed 2 GPU's but it's still 1 card

Requiring crossfire is no biggie since the games that require the 4870X2's performance support crossfire anyway
(And a lot of the ones that don't need that kind of power support crossfire as well. The ones that don't... who cares when you're getting 200+fps from 1 core?)

Registering as 2 cards in software doesn't mean it's 2 cards. It's still physically 1 card

...y'know what? I'm opting out of this argument
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