OrphanShadow

Impressive results.

If shanghai results are anything anything to go by we should be seeing some incredibly nice Deneb numbers.

Good luck AMD.

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So, you guys actually think AMD can beat Intel in performance? Don't make me laugh, AMD is not catching up anytime soon. I highly doubt you could get a AMD CPU to 6 GHz. I remember when BS like this was posted about K10 being able to beat the core 2 duo and being able to overclock to 3 GHz but when it came out it could barely reach 3 GHz. The same thing will happen here.

ryanrenolds08

Watch out...you just stated facts. The horde doesn't like that.

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Auld

Thanks for that info, much more realistic. 4ghz on air is awesome but is 1.55 Vcore safe for current 45nm phenoms? i know there are people on these forums getting 4.0 Q9550 at only 1.35 Vcore on air aswell. comparing those numbers this processor is not as impressive as i thought it would be.

About the fanboy crap in this thread... yes i am INDEED a fanboy but not of any company but of performance. i guess you can call me a "band wagoner" i will "fan boy" any company that produces the fastest hardware at a reasonable price regardless of what their company name is.

iandh

Wait, I just read through the entire thread, and NOT ONCE did I see "I7 killer" mentioned by anyone. Most of the comments were along the lines of "Good job AMD", or "Wow, maybe AMD can finally compete".

I only saw ONE comment that even implied that this could beat I7, and I think it was a joke.

That tells me you came into this thread specifically to get yourself all worked up into a frenzy and bash AMD.

That is on pre-production 45nm silicon vs. intel's finely tuned 45nm process... once AMD has a second revision out I am sure that they will hit 4Ghz @ 1.4V no prob.

Just FYI, many people have received E8400's that can't hit 4Ghz at 1.4v, so don't act like it is a given for any chip.

ryanrenolds08

Celeron Ds were hitting this high and higher on some extreme cooling but we all know how their performance is...even overclocked. Same goes for PIV.


Which is why they say that their direct competition is the 45nm quads out right now. Some I guess forgot to actually read it. We cannot also directly correlate due to differences in server and desktop chips. While being somewhat close, we cannot make that assumption.

You just hit the nail on the head. This is the whole point of it. I just fail to see AMD doing it at this moment. Its unfortunate...but I doubt they come out of the gate rocking. I wish they did, but they need to get away from the old architectures PERMANENTLY in every way.

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MasterKromm

Did they update the update?

Anyhoo this is rather impressive and unprecedented for AMD, their chips had been notoriously cold bugged. I just hope they used a retail chip and not some sort of ultra binned/golden monster that the average consumer(more importantly OCer) will never see.

Even so, Deneb is looking good especially if they keep costs down... As it is now, I'd love to buy a Q9650, but not for $500+. I'd sooner sell my current CPU + mobo then go AMD(assuming mobo + CPU is well below $500 total).

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E0s??? I've yet to see one not hit 4ghz; admittedly I haven't looked all that hard either...

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Auld

i totally forgot phenoms were 65nm.

iandh

Every tidbit of information we have received, some from VERY reputable sources, say deneb will be a 4Ghz chip at least on water, and we KNOW FOR A FACT that it has to be at least a little bit faster clock-for-clock than Agena, if not considerably faster.

If the price is right, what part of my above statement equals not rocking?

ryanrenolds08

Nope, sorry I and H I am not working myself into a frenzy at all. I just think its foolish to start a party before you even know if the person of honor is showing up...and imagine that person is always about 50% late/doesn't show up. We will just see when they come out now won't we!

The problem I see with their doings, is that they DO NOT NEED to compete with previous gen Intel, they have been doing that for a couple years now and they are bleeding money because of it. They need a "come in swinging, knock your socks off" chip and it just doesn't seem that they are aiming for that. Its almost as if they are settling for being 'second best' and people are praising them for it.

/WAY off subject

* Your 8800GT ramsinks are very nice... * Just wanted to compliment you on your work. Got them on both of mine

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