Originally Posted by 003

First of all, this is probably the best review of the Phenom II that is currently out there. Notice all the low graphics settings and the very low resolutions. That is perfect to test how CPU bound the games and applications are.

Second, it's not that big of a deal that they use DDR3 for the intel CPUs. DDR3 hardly makes any difference at all in games. If they had used DDR2, the results would have been very similar. Also, it is not AMD's fault that intel currently supports DDR3 and they do not. DDR3 can hardly be considered expensive these days, so don't try and pull the price card. You can get a very good dual channel kit of 2x2GB DDR3 1333 memory for below $80.

And if we're talking Core i7, you do not have to get a triple channel kit. Dual channel still works just fine, and there is zero performance difference in games when stepping from triple to dual channel, and even single channel most of the time.

Quit spewing this rubbish about a $1000 CPU as well... you can pick up a Core i7 920 for below $300, and they easily overclock to 3.8GHz on the stock cooler, and 4GHz+ on good air and water. Some people have even achieved 4.4GHz stable on water.

The only aspect of Core i7 that is still on the pricey side are the motherboards, but the prices are coming down. You can pick up an MSI X58 Platinum for ~$215 currently, and expect the prices to continue dropping on the boards.

Originally Posted by Darius Silver

Wow, quite the variance in these benchmarks... Think I'll hold my opinion till someone on here gets there hands on it and reviews it... Though power consumption system wise is looking good.

Originally Posted by getllamasfast

It does indeed test how cpu bound the apps were, but who actually games at super low settings?

Originally Posted by OpTicaL

You're right it's probably a fake Fermi and it's running off a 5870.

Originally Posted by 003

Well, it is a CPU review, no?

Originally Posted by XxBeNigNxX

Check out BenBrown's thread


http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/43...omparison.html

Originally Posted by 003

First of all, this is probably the best review of the Phenom II that is currently out there. Notice all the low graphics settings and the very low resolutions. That is perfect to test how CPU bound the games and applications are.

Second, it's not that big of a deal that they use DDR3 for the intel CPUs. DDR3 hardly makes any difference at all in games. If they had used DDR2, the results would have been very similar. Also, it is not AMD's fault that intel currently supports DDR3 and they do not. DDR3 can hardly be considered expensive these days, so don't try and pull the price card. You can get a very good dual channel kit of 2x2GB DDR3 1333 memory for below $80.

And if we're talking Core i7, you do not have to get a triple channel kit. Dual channel still works just fine, and there is zero performance difference in games when stepping from triple to dual channel, and even single channel most of the time.

Quit spewing this rubbish about a $1000 CPU as well... you can pick up a Core i7 920 for below $300, and they easily overclock to 3.8GHz on the stock cooler, and 4GHz+ on good air and water. Some people have even achieved 4.4GHz stable on water.

The only aspect of Core i7 that is still on the pricey side are the motherboards, but the prices are coming down. You can pick up an MSI X58 Platinum for ~$215 currently, and expect the prices to continue dropping on the boards.

EDIT:
Oh, and I'd just like to point out, even though the Core 2 Quad system is using DDR3 1600 memory and the Phenom II is using DDR2 800 memory, the Phenom II still pulls higher memory bandwidth than the Core 2 Quad. Keep that in mind when you are saying it's so unfair that they are using DDR3.