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TheSandman · 10-15-09

hmm i wonder if its on purpose intels new plan since you presist in overclocking our chips now if you do we blow them up

dham · 10-15-09

You guys worry to much. If it burns it burns. If it doesn't then good. It's not like I'm going to run my chip at stock either way if it'll do 4ghz on stock volts. Just not going to happen. And if this was really a problem I think we would see more then a couple posts on message boards about it. A lot of people overclock that don't post on these forums or anyway. If it was happening like an epidemic then these oc'ers that don't visit message boards might post on them to warn us. If it was a major problem we would see a lot more then we have. We are screwed anyway cause no on is going to rma anyway. Motherboard companies might. But I don't see me calling up msi and telling them to send me another motherboard that has another type of socket on it. It's not technically defective. Plus I'm not even sure I have a foxconn socket. I have a foxconn protector plate. But then again everyone has a foxconn protector plate.

Old Hippie · 10-15-09

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You guys worry to much. If it burns it burns.

I'll second that emotion.

G|F.E.A.D|Killa · 10-15-09

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Originally Posted by Starbuck5000

I think thats the point, the clocks don't even need to be that high. Raja did say in another thread on XS that it could happen on a 24/7 oc just by running LinX/Prime

thats what i was getting at too, i mean sure i could see that happening with like 6.1ghz, but 5ghz.... come on.. really lol.

M3T4LM4N222 · 10-15-09

Guys with P55, I don't think you have to worry unless you have a budget board that isn't meant to handle over 1.4v. LGA 1156 chips where not meant for overclocking, why you ask? Because its mainstream. You can still overclock the chips a good amount without 1.4v, so just stop worrying. These are suicide runs anyways.

lordikon · 10-15-09

I've got a solution to this one:

1.) Start up your computer.
2.) Enter BIOS.
3.) Set your clock speeds to something less than 5Ghz.

Done.

Starbuck5000 · 10-15-09

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Originally Posted by M3T4LM4N222

Guys with P55, I don't think you have to worry unless you have a budget board that isn't meant to handle over 1.4v. LGA 1156 chips where not meant for overclocking, why you ask? Because its mainstream. You can still overclock the chips a good amount without 1.4v, so just stop worrying. These are suicide runs anyways.

It has nothing to do with budget boards, its about Intel cramming the same ammount of power of a full x58 i7 into less pins and the sockets not being able to take it. Both highend and low end p55 boards are effected by this.

Since when have cpu's(apart from ee's) ever been designed for overclocking. Anyway the grassroots of overclocking is about taking a cheaper part and getting the performance of a more expensiv part.

If you actually read what people are saying and do the maths this can still happen to people who are not benching but actually only running their pc 24/7

M3T4LM4N222 · 10-15-09

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Originally Posted by Starbuck5000

It has nothing to do with budget boards, its about Intel cramming the same ammount of power of a full x58 i7 into less pins and the sockets not being able to take it. Both highend and low end p55 boards are effected by this.

Since when have cpu's(apart from ee's) ever been designed for overclocking. Anyway the grassroots of overclocking is about taking a cheaper part and getting the performance of a more expensiv part.

If you actually read what people are saying and do the maths this can still happen to people who are not benching but actually only running their pc 24/7

Isn't it actually MORE power than x58, because wouldn't the northbridge on die count as 'More power' in some way? and I believe its because of what ASrock and other companies have been saying, P55 runs at 95W, due to the lower TDP the sockets where designed to handle that amount of TDP, and people are pumping huge amounts of voltages into these processors, causing them to run at 130W+

Starbuck5000 · 10-15-09

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Originally Posted by M3T4LM4N222

Isn't it actually MORE power than x58, because wouldn't the northbridge on die count as 'More power' in some way? and I believe its because of what ASrock and other companies have been saying, P55 runs at 95W, due to the lower TDP the sockets where designed to handle that amount of TDP, and people are pumping huge amounts of voltages into these processors, causing them to run at 130W+

Go and re-read what I said and what is said in the XS thread

AT STOCK the Lynnfield chips use more than 130W when at load. You still haven't read what people like Raja are saying. You don't need to be pushing massive ammounts of voltage for this to happen. While the nb is onboard Lynnfields have a lower idle TDP

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Whichever way you look at it, it's current draw related. 160+w is pushing the socket design quite hard it seems, and yes running Linx you can get to this quite easily over 4.3GHz, so people just need to be a little more cautious, no need to torture the design too much to prove its stable or otherwise.

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I should add at this point, if you run 8 thread Linx over 4.4GHz at ambient temps the power draw of some CPU's is very much the same as what I was pulling at near 5.2 @ -100. Only you don't have the luxury of the cooling preventing a serious burnout. So next time one of the stability boys harps on about needing to see 8 hours of Prime etc on 4.3GHz + OC's using the i5 platform , tell him to 'F*** O**!'.

I will take the word of people like Raja, Shamino and Oskar Wu over almost everyone else in the industy, espically mobo companies who insist on 9000+ phases.

Some of the socket burn was taking place at less than 200w being fed to the CPU. It seems to be a combination, of Intel not having enough pins for P55 and the fragile sockets not being able to cope with it.

Rightwing · 10-15-09

If you read the article's closely you will see it has nothing to due with voltage.It has to do with the pin's on the socket not making good contact with the pad's on the cpu and nothing else.

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