MDUK

Sorry if this sounds ignorant but what do the Quadro series of GPUs offer that the Geforce series doesn't to justify its enormous price tag?

Singular1ty

Everything, you see, there are two markets

The gamer market

And the programmer extreme computing market.

The cards for programming need to be incredibly good. So the quadro is built to kick absolute ass. A normal quadro or its amd equivalent would blow anything in the gamer market out of the water.

Thats the difference.

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MagicBox

Did you miss the JHH interview? The cards are developed for computing foremost. It doesn't mean they wouldn't be good for gaming. Secondly, when you educate yourself on the architecture by reading the white paper and view promotional material on the NVidia website itself, you could conclude that the die does not incooperate a hardware tesselator for example.

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MagicBox

That is not the difference. The cards are engineered to be extremely and EXTREMELY reliable because it can cost enterprise businesses tons of money if those cards die for whatever reason. The cards are made with high grade silicon with an extended temperature range of operation, a much bigger range than that for consumer products.

Durability, reliabilty, environmental abuse resistance is what makes them so expensive in the eyes of the average Joe.

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This is typical of Nvidia to say ATI is forcing DX11 onto the consumer, ATI in my eyes are making the natural evolution.
If Nvidia had their way we all would be using a bastardized version of DX10 and DX9 for years to come, and it's not like they didn't force feed their physx on people (not directly)
but there are games i don't want to play due to this.

On Topic

Even if Nvidia have the greatest card, they should feel uncomfortable still with a month or so before release we still have nothing more than guesses as to how this thing will perform in games.
But yet ATI announced 5900 series for November , they just need to catch up.

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MDUK

That's not a valid answer. "Built to kick ass?" They have similar clock speeds, number of processors, and slightly more RAM. From statistics I can't see what separates them.

So that is it? Performance-wise they don't offer much extra? Sounds like a waste of money to me, but I'm not a business / scientific / educational institution. I briefly googled these cards and read several reviews, some from gamers saying "these are a waste of money" and some from people who obviously actually own them saying "they aren't designed for games, so don't expect them to perform in games." Are these people just as clueless? They are convincing themselves that these cards have added performance in non-gaming applications because nVidia and others say so and slap a ridiculous price tag on them?

sodaholic134

Drivers and support are what separate the quadro and geforce cards.

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troll harder.

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amd4200

Why does everyone hate AMD? Because they keep fighting? And wont let Nvidia stick us with EXTREMELY high prices? But seriously I want to know why people are Nvidia OR Amd fanboys.

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Bluelightning

It's all marketing. Nvidia lacks the x86 patent, and cannot compete with intel and AMD on those fronts. Intel and AMD are attempting to integrate the GPU's job on the CPU, and thus take out a large portion of Nvidia's market (the low end). By itself, I don't think the high end GPU market is strong enough to keep Nvidia alive forever, and so they made a shift to make their GPUs competitive with CPUs for the HPC market. They are not abandoning the gamers, but simply expanding their market. Now that's all speculative, but that's how I see things heading.