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Is there any proof. I'm sure there is but we'll never see it. And of course no company is going to come out and incriminate themselves. Maybe a disgruntled employee would come forward and blow the Nvidia tale of deceit wide open. Wishful thinking, I know.

And I like how you're trying to take the focus off of Nvidia because you're a fanboy. Whatever ATi does is not relevant here. We're talking about Nvidia and Lucid, not ATi and Lucid.
Stick to the subject at hand. Thanks.

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The only reason the focus is on Nvidia is because Charlie put it there, lacking any kind of evidence that Nvidia is behind this in the first place. It could easily be ATI or ATI and Nvidia or neither of them.
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The only reason the focus is on Nvidia is because Charlie put it there, lacking any kind of evidence that Nvidia is behind this in the first place. It could easily be ATI or ATI and Nvidia or neither of them.
Well the things that pull the deception towards Nvidia is that the photoshopped board that looked like the big bang has an Nvidia logo on it. And coincidentally the board also happens to have an Nvidia chipset in there. Hmmm.... yeah I think ATi is to blame here, don't you?
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Is there something shady going on? Yes. Is there any proof Nvidia is behind it? No. Has anybody thought about ATI and Crossfire? Heck, it might be a collaborative effort between ATI and Nvidia. Or maybe it's something else entirely.
ATI/AMD makes no money off crossfire because they chose to make the technology open source. Thier profits would not suffer if a Lucid Hydra chip became the new standard. Nvidia however makes 5 dollars off of every board, or used to anyway. Case against intel over X58 and P55 is still pending.

I really don't know what to believe with this article. I do know a lot of people were very excited about this new lucid chip, myself included. It got good press and lots of attention. I was skeptical but excited about its release. Now the whole board, the whole lineup is just gone. With no explanation from anybody, no Lucid Hydra chip, no talk about future boards, absolutely nothing. Instead we have a board with the same name and a NF200 chip instead. Even if Nvidia had nothing to do with this is just looks bad, and even people outside of the foil hat brigade can see that. I can't imagine why Lucid is not crying foul over this, if they do and any company is to blame for strong arming them out of a the market, they could easily win a suit against that company.

Hopefully MSI and Lucid will release a statement soon and clear this whole thing up. I have to wonder, if it is a "conspiracy" why lucid both maintains that their products are ready for market, without commenting on the MSI boards or future releases? Very suspicious all around.

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Well the things that pull the deception towards Nvidia is that the photoshopped board that looked like the big bang has an Nvidia logo on it. And coincidentally the board also happens to have an Nvidia chipset in there. Hmmm.... yeah I think ATi is to blame here, don't you?
Well NF200 chipsets on the upper end P55 boards are not surprising at all, they add PCI-e lanes, which is an area P55 is lacking.
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I hope another brand comes out with a Hydra based board, preferably x58. I don't want another MSI product D:
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Well NF200 chipsets on the upper end P55 boards are not surprising at all, they add PCI-e lanes, which is an area P55 is lacking.
No, the NF200 extends PCIe lanes. It does NOT actually add new PCIe lanes.
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Well NF200 chipsets on the upper end P55 boards are not surprising at all, they add PCI-e lanes, which is an area P55 is lacking.
what does this have to do with OP?

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The only reason the focus is on Nvidia is because Charlie put it there, lacking any kind of evidence that Nvidia is behind this in the first place. It could easily be ATI or ATI and Nvidia or neither of them.

Read my post on the first page. I know deductive reasoning is hard, but at least give it a shot.


Also, look at the reason they give on the Big Bang website, despite the fact that the nForce 200 chip benefits both SLI and CF, they specifically state its for "3-WAY TRUE SLI". If that's not a load of nVidia marketing BS I don't know what is.

And Charlie missed this, but if you look at the comment from Evil Genius on the Big Bang site they refer to Big Bang as a "motherboard", as in a single motherboard.

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P55 board looks so clustered.
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