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Well NF200 chipsets on the upper end P55 boards are not surprising at all, they add PCI-e lanes, which is an area P55 is lacking.
You believe whatever you want to believe. All of us rational thinkers, and people that normally aren't swayed by "conspiracy" mostly agree that something is fishy here. Who's responsible? Usually the people that have the most to lose from it. So lets see here, who would lose the most if lucid chipped boards became the norm. ATi? Nah, the don't make money off of CFX. MSI? They're losing money by NOT releasing the board. And oh yeah, then there's Nvidia. Nvidia would lose $5 per board for the license, not to mention that would snowball into the GPU market as people could mix and match GPU's all they like. Then their whole physX thing would go out the window, etc.etc.

To me it is painfully obvious that Nvidia is pretty much the ONLY loser here. Not ATi, not MSI and not Lucid. Just by reason of deduction, Nvidia is most likely the culprit.
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ATI/AMD makes no money off crossfire because they chose to make the technology open source. ..
I don't think the technology is open source. It's still proprietary. They just "don't care" about it as much as nvidia since it's not their only source of profit (nvidia depends on its GPU technology and sales while AMD has the support of its CPU, chipset, and GPU branches).

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anyway, i personally see the Hydra as the biggest shakeup in GPU history. I honestly do not understand why other manufacturers aren't jumping on it and putting it on other platforms by the truckload.
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To me it appears nVidia paid some people off to stay hush. I mean seriously why would:

a) MSI put out a board with an nVidia chipset that was suppose to be Luicd last minute?

b) Why would Lucid not be raising hell that this happened?

Again, it sounds like some people got some pretty big chucks of change from big brother. Either that or someone actually likes nVidia chipsets
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ohhh the irony...

anyway, i personally see the Hydra as the biggest shakeup in GPU history. I honestly do not understand why other manufacturers aren't jumping on it and putting it on other platforms by the truckload.
Agreed.

Now that I've put just a little bit more thought in to this I'm coming to the realization that this technology has shaken Nvidia to its core. This could seriously put Nvidia out of business. If this article is even remotely accurate, then Nvidia would have serious problems on their hands if lucid were to be introduced right now.
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Agreed.

Now that I've put just a little bit more thought in to this I'm coming to the realization that this technology has shaken Nvidia to its core. This could seriously put Nvidia out of business. If this article is even remotely accurate, then Nvidia would have serious problems on their hands if lucid were to be introduced right now.
That article was verified to be correct. They were indeed dummy cards.
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Agreed.

Now that I've put just a little bit more thought in to this I'm coming to the realization that this technology has shaken Nvidia to its core. This could seriously put Nvidia out of business. If this article is even remotely accurate, then Nvidia would have serious problems on their hands if lucid were to be introduced right now.
This gives them a huge incentive to "think outside of the box". Would they not murder a hobo for less?
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what does this have to do with OP?
It was a response to an argument claiming that the new MSI board pictured had an nvidia logo. You really need to grow up and stop making a fool of yourself. Also, using proper grammar and sentence structure would make you come off a whole hell of a lot more credible and intelligent. You remind me a lot of skug.

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No, the NF200 extends PCIe lanes. It does NOT actually add new PCIe lanes.
That is nit picking. The result is virtually the same, albeit with slightly increased latency. When the extra bandwidth is needed though, the effect of higher latency is virtually eliminated.

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Nvidia would lose $5 per board for the license, not to mention that would snowball into the GPU market as people could mix and match GPU's all they like. Then their whole physX thing would go out the window, etc.etc.

To me it is painfully obvious that Nvidia is pretty much the ONLY loser here. Not ATi, not MSI and not Lucid. Just by reason of deduction, Nvidia is most likely the culprit.
It's true that they may have more to lose, but that still doesn't prove they are responsible. You can't deny the article on SemiAccurate is completely speculation at best.

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Agreed.

Now that I've put just a little bit more thought in to this I'm coming to the realization that this technology has shaken Nvidia to its core. This could seriously put Nvidia out of business. If this article is even remotely accurate, then Nvidia would have serious problems on their hands if lucid were to be introduced right now.
Yes, the card held by Nvidia's CEO was a dummy. The HD5000 cards passed around by ATI at their tech conference were also dummies. What's important is that the card rendering the demo was real. And how do you conclude the whole dummy fiasco is related to Lucid in any way? I don't see the connection and I am genuinely curious.
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Paying companies off - if that happened - could not have been cheap. And even if it is true, none of the companies involved will ever admit to anything. There will never be more to go on than speculation, unless some employee gets pissed off and leaks emails, etc. Doubt any evidence will ever get out.
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Paying companies off - if that happened - could not have been cheap. And even if it is true, none of the companies involved will ever admit to anything. There will never be more to go on than speculation, unless some employee gets pissed off and leaks emails, etc. Doubt any evidence will ever get out.
No it would not be cheap. Don't you think nVidia would pay though to keep lucid out? Think of how much they have to lose. It sounds logical to me.

Example:

Timmy sells candy bars for 1 dollar
Tommy comes along and says hes going to sell them for 75 cents
Timmy pays tommy 20 dollars not to sell candy and not to tell people he was paid off
People mad because they heard about getting candy cheaper
People still buy from Timmy because they know no different
Tommy is happy that he got 20 dollars

-rest of story-

susie drains tommys wallet
Tommy goes ahead and starts selling candy bars for 75 cents

Im eating chocolate right now.... lol but same principle.

On the end, I think we will see Lucid, but for the time being they've been shut up.
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