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Yes, the card held by Nvidia's CEO was a dummy. The HD5000 cards passed around by ATI at their tech conference were also dummies. What's important is that the card rendering the demo was real. And how do you conclude the whole dummy fiasco is related to Lucid in any way? I don't see the connection and I am genuinely curious.
ATI had demos, they showed working cards rendering games and stuff, all we have from nVidia is a poorly made dummy card, their lies about said dummy card and their assurances about Fermi rendering the demo, for all we know it wasn't Fermi.

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Is there something shady going on? Yes. Is there any proof Nvidia is behind it? No. Has anybody thought about ATI and Crossfire? Heck, it might be a collaborative effort between ATI and Nvidia. Or maybe it's something else entirely.
Says the guy with the nVidia avatar.

It's fairly obvious that if anyone is behind this, it's nVidia, ATI doesn't make money off CFX which has always been on Intel chipsets, they make money from us buying 2 ATI cards and are happy with that, they don't care what chipset we run them on.

On the other hand, nVidia makes us either use their chipsets, or x58/P55 motherboards where the makers had to pay a tax in order to use SLI on that board, they want money from the choice of chipset we use as well as the cards we buy.

Who stands to lose money from Hydra? nVidia, no more SLI licensing.

There is no-one else in the computer industry who stands to lose anything from Hydra, only nVidia, look at this like a detective, Who stands to lose the most from it? nVidia. Who, therefore, is the prime suspect? nVidia.

It's just you're fanboyism for nVidia causes you to want this to not be real, so everyone buys nVidia and ATI shuts down.

Good-bye nVidia, you've lost me as a customer, until you fix your shoddy business practices.
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003, respectfully....

You make yourself look like an idiot by defending Nvidia here. Nvidia, As Brutuz has stated, is the only party in TFA that benefits from killing the Hydra technology. Nvidia did it, it's obvious, we all know it. Except if you've got solid information that no one here has posted yet, you're coming across as a willfully blind, misinformed fool.

I'm just curious: how exactly did Nvidia stop this? Did they buy off Msi? Intimidate them? Both? I wonder if we'll ever find out.

In any case, as I said earlier, this is only a temporary setback for us at OCN. We'll get our spiffy new GPU tech before long.
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So there's as much chance it was Ati as Nvidia, but let's just stick "Nvidia crushes something awesome" in the title.

Go Semi. Oh Oh. Go Semi.

There is no one in the industry that is more biased than Charlie. I'd love someone to post an anti-ATi writer to compare.
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So there's as much chance it was Ati as Nvidia, but let's just stick "Nvidia crushes something awesome" in the title.

Go Semi. Oh Oh. Go Semi.

There is no one in the industry that is more biased than Charlie. I'd love someone to post an anti-ATi writer to compare.
Read my post, nVidia stands to lose a lot of money/possible income from Hydra, ATI doesn't.
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Read my post, nVidia stands to lose a lot of money/possible income from Hydra, ATI doesn't.
They both stand to lose money. You're drawing conclusions. It could just as easily be an engineering problem as Ati at this point.
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They both stand to lose money. You're drawing conclusions. It could just as easily be an engineering problem as Ati at this point.
Where does ATI stand to lose money? They don't, AMD still will sell as many chipsets as they always have, they don't require a licensing fee for x58/P55/x48/P45, etc, they only get money from the actual sales of the cards and what money they do get from chipsets, they've proven that they don't care enough about it to do something like this, which is why CFX is working on Intel chipsets without a licensing fee..

nVidia gets a profit on every motherboard that will work with SLI without using a hack, they stand to lose that.
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Where does ATI stand to lose money? They don't, AMD still will sell as many chipsets as they always have, they don't require a licensing fee for x58/P55/x48/P45, etc, they only get money from the actual sales of the cards and what money they do get from chipsets, they've proven that they don't care enough about it to do something like this, which is why CFX is working on Intel chipsets without a licensing fee..

nVidia gets a profit on every motherboard that will work with SLI without using a hack, they stand to lose that.
Well, I think we need proof from Lucid, stating that it is 100% functional and they do not know why it has been delayed.
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Where does ATI stand to lose money? They don't, AMD still will sell as many chipsets as they always have, they don't require a licensing fee for x58/P55/x48/P45, etc, they only get money from the actual sales of the cards and what money they do get from chipsets, they've proven that they don't care enough about it to do something like this, which is why CFX is working on Intel chipsets without a licensing fee..

nVidia gets a profit on every motherboard that will work with SLI without using a hack, they stand to lose that.
Honestly, how scared do you think Nvidia actually is of this tech... They spend so much time optimizing their drivers for SLI per game that I doubt this technique will ever approach the speed of SLI.
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Well, I think we need proof from Lucid, stating that it is 100% functional and they do not know why it has been delayed.
I agree, it doesn't make sense for anyone else to do this, I'm taking it with salt but definitely not trusting nVidia until proven they didn't do it, from someone other than nVidia. (To prevent lying)

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Honestly, how scared do you think Nvidia actually is of this tech... They spend so much time optimizing their drivers for SLI per game that I doubt this technique will ever approach the speed of SLI.
facedesk.

This gets 100% scaling for everything, it's not software based, unlike SLI and Crossfire.
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