amay200

IF the cost to ATI licensing PhysX from Nvidia is only $5 why does Nvidia desire to prevent the consumer from making that choice (using a Primary ATI card and an Nvidia card for physx)? Then it would be easier to put pressure on ATI to license PhysX would it not? Think about it... Nvidia allows PhysX cards to be used on ATI systems, then launchers PR campaign about how easy it would be for ATI to implement PhysX (heck write it into TWIMTBP logo thing or something when the game boots up)

Consumer "what?!! ATI can do this on the cheap . ATI FIX THIS NOW!!!"
ATI " the consumers have spoken" ~sigh~
Nvidia $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Ecchi-BANZAII!!!

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buster2010

Why should ATI fix anything? There are only a few games that support physx that's worth playing, and even then they can only brag about one game. Also after DX11 is mainstream physx will be dead except for console ports.

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lordikon

You're mistaken. The only thing PhysX is 'the best' as, is GPU acceleration. And only half a game developer's customers will even get that. I'm ok with nvidia having it only work on their cards, what is stupid is that they also force you to use their cards for rendering as well, which has nothing at all to do with PhysX. I'm surprised they're not locking out people not using an Nvidia chipset as well...

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From the article

And this is a survey done to developers.

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sodaholic134

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Here are my objections to that survey.

1. I'd like to know who the "100 various developers" are.

2. I'd like to know the exact question posed to the developers.

So, I don't know what the percentage stands for. Is it how many developers support the various physics libraries? Is it how many developers like the various physics libraries? Or, is it how many developers utilize the various physics libraries?

Those are the questions I'd like to have answered before I can take that survey seriously.

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TestECull

How the hell is Havok second on that list? It powers a good 85-90% of my game library, and I can count the good Phys-X games on one hand.


Let's seee....

Havok titles I can name:

Half Life 2
HL2 episode 1
and episode 2
Portal
CSS
TF2
L4D
L4D2
Garry's Mod
Oblivion
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas will(As it's going to recycle FO3's game engine)
Any one of the millions of sourcemods floating around Steam
Robot Arena 2(LOOK IT UP! It's a bit old, I'll grant you, but it is Havok powered. One of the first games to use Havok, and yet when playing you can still clearly see the telltale spazzy nature of Havok constraints. )


Phys-X titles I can name:
Mirror's Edge
Batman: AA

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Coma

It's an intentional performance hit... I bet there isn't a single line of inline assembly in there.

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JTD92

Basically all the good games run on Havok.

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Brutuz

Let's assume that's most impressed by the technology...

That still doesn't mean it's the best at anything else than paper stuff, right now PhysX is only the best at using a GPU for Physics calculations and in terms of awesome effects, everything else it's bested by Havok.

And once OpenCL becomes mainstream, it'll be bested in both those two areas as well, especially since OpenCL can use the CPU as well as GPU, preventing you from getting as much of a performance hit during games with hard 3D gameplay while having a Quad Core CPU with 2 cores idling.

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