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Isn't GF way behind on 32nm? At least they're skipping to 18nm for their next GPU's!
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...if Intel does absolutely nothing and all their employees sit back on a Brazilian beach sipping pina-coladas.
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Isn't GF way behind on 32nm? At least they're skipping to 18nm for their next GPU's!
18nm? o.o

I think you mean 28nm
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people tend too forget amd did have a a better processor before, cpu market is the same as the gpu side its back and fourth its just as of late amd has been at the back for awhile.

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yeah, as sad as it is, i wouldn't believe it id i saw it
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...if Intel does absolutely nothing and all their employees sit back on a Brazilian beach sipping pina-coladas.
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I know that if/when that happens I won't believe it.
Intel is an unstoppable juggernaut, they're the best and they know it and they're using their lead to stay on top, the only reason AMD is still alive is by Intel's mercy.
That isn't totally true. Intel is on top because of a nice little thing that happened back in 1978 called the Intel 8086. That chip revolutionized the world and put Intel at the top of the microprocessor world. MS came around with a very nice computing environment called Windows which was based around the x86 microprocessor architecture and Intel went through the roof. The Pentium name is synonymous with computers thanks to the PC boom of the late 90s and here we are. Intel made it to the top due to really really amazing marketing and having some perfect timing with the PC boom. You are right in saying that they know this but they don't keep AMD around because of mercy, they keep them around because they have to.

Intel knows that they would be a Monopoly if AMD didn't exist. VIA does not produce enough volume in the x86 market to even come close to being a contender here and without AMD, Intel would be shut down. Plus the elusive minds at Intel probably enjoy the competition. Competition doesn't just drive down prices, it pushes engineering forward so that every 18 months we can double our transistor count, holding Moore's Law true. People think of Intel as some greedy company that doesn't care about anything but itself, but in truth it is probably a company that values human achievement at it's highest regard. No good company likes to sit around and produce a cheap product and slightly revise it every few years, at least not in the semiconductor industry. This is why Intel needs AMD, and vice versa. I bet if we trudge through the mudslinging done in the discrete GPU area, I bet Intel will bring the same type of competition to that market to push nVidia and ATi to make more groundbreaking products. Just look at what G80 has forced ATi to come out with. Imagine if Larrabee puts down amazing numbers, nVidia and ATi are going to come out with some crazy things.

As to the topic at hand, I don't foresee Global Foundries beating Intel's node development. Even with IBM on their side, Intel is probably number 1 in research when it comes to gate pitch. What I can GF doing is ramping up production to match that of Intel's HKMG with SOI.
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