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Old 02-10-09   #11 (permalink)
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Clocks are king. To your question you can buy a dual core cheaper than Quad? Then get a dual, multi threaded support is not yet totally here, that said multi thread quad support is almost not available and will not be soon.

The quad will have greater overall computational power. Think of a sports car and a truck taking bananas to the market? The sports car will get there faster. But when the truck arrives will have a lot more bananas?

But for gaming your high end quad should be fine. So, how much money you got?
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Core 2 Duos are great for games, Core 2 Quads are great for multitasking and programs that use all 4 cores. An e8400 or e8500 will usually be faster thanks to higher clocks and generally run cooler at any given clock. It's only when you run more stuff while you game or you get multi threaded apps that the Quad really shines.

But for games that use multi cores, the Quad would be a better choice. If you plan on doing more than gaming, and not just surfing the internet than a Quad is better for multitasking. If you want to run a game, Ventrillo/Teamspeak, and keep a browser window open, a Quad would be better.

But for best bang/buck, either the e8400 or around $200.00 Quad core would be a good deal, depending on if you want single application performance, or multi-application performance.
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E8500 @ 4.0Ghz would be a decent upgrade. As for quad I would suggest a Q9550.

The 45nm's are also faster clock for clock then the 65nm's. He might also have a different OS, different memory speed/timings, drivers etc. There are many factors...
Well, he uses black dragon memory of Geil 5-5-5-12, home premium 64 bit (I use 32 bit), I use the latest drivers and he doesn`t. I really don`t know why my system is that slow. In vantage I get 6607 gpu points and 4973 cpu points without physx.

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Clocks are king. To your question you can buy a dual core cheaper than Quad? Then get a dual, multi threaded support is not yet totally here, that said multi thread quad support is almost not available and will not be soon.

The quad will have greater overall computational power. Think of a sports car and a truck taking bananas to the market? The sports car will get there faster. But when the truck arrives will have a lot more bananas?

But for gaming your high end quad should be fine. So, how much money you got?
Well my price budget will be till 200 euro's ($260 converted):

http://www.alternate.nl/html/categor...ount=6&bfbox=1

Wich one would you choose?

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At 3.2Ghz it's not a bottleneck at all.

Quads and duals are equal in most games. It depends which titles.
QFT. i get the same performance in crysis at stock with my Quad as i did with my 3ghz E2160.

you can ignore bottlenecks for the majority of cards after 3ghz - after that it's mostly benchmarks. i will say that this Quad has doubled my frames in GTA IV though
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Well, I did some benchmarks and the scores are 12051 (3dmark06) and P8601 (vantage). Are you sure my CPU isn't bottlenecking my system as the scores are a tad low.

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Honestly your scores are right in line with what they should be.
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what makes you think you're bottlenecked anyways? what can't you run at high/very high settings?

bottlenecks are for the most part overrated i find.
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what makes you think you're bottlenecked anyways? what can't you run at high/very high settings?

bottlenecks are for the most part overrated i find.
I get an average of 12FPS at Crysis Warhead DX10 at 'gamer' settings (1650x1080), fallout 3 doesn't run smooth with everything at high (1920x1200). There are parts at which I get like 60FPS, but also parts like in battle where I get like 15FPS. While a friend of mine plays those games at an average of 30FPS at the same settings with an E8500 and an 9800GT.

My system should score better than that with an 9800GTX+ OC`ed right?

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There were a couple reasons I opted for the Quad core... so I'll list them here...

1. While surfing through OCN to see whether to get a e8400 or a q9550, I was watching a x264 TV show, with VMware Running in the background for office work.... well, the computer froze up for a little bit cause VLC and VM Workstation were battling for cycles... while firefox was QQ'ing that it just wanted just a few resources.

2. Newer games WILL use 4 cores. They already do, and as such developers will only continue to move forward in this space. While they may not use all 4 efficiently, which is granted... they will certainly push to have more then one heavy thread. I think we will start seeing this more in 09, and in 2010... way more so.

.... i'll add more later... but I have work to do
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